Problems with P2W system

[xTotem]

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Only 10 with 7 active. but theres 12 members in 15 minutes.

420, vTotem, vTotems, xTotems are all on my accs : )

 

[Princeps]

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Only 10 with 7 active. but theres 12 members in 15 minutes.

its just reon's bullshit talks

 

[Geddon]

Scrubs has exacly 10 real people playing while rest of the characters are alts. Also im against the UG in mall since there is already a way to get them without having to PK for them.

 

[HeavenSlasher]

Wtf!
Every single topic people complain about mallers. Please stop crying and (PLEASE, PLEASE AND PLEASE AGAIN) try something new, maybe if you spend more time cooking, or manufacturing, or crafting, or doing any other thing to make money you could reach the TOP players. It's not an easy game!

Please stop this crying like a lil spoiled babies!!

I never bought 1cent in rum but I already have my URs and a reasonable fairy.. So come on!

 

[Shing]

I started to play ToP back in 2007, played for 5 years and i never spent a dollar on the game. Though i was only able to join to second or third best guilds, it was fine. Some of you need to understand, it's not about how YOU play the game, it's about the average player. Like I can sell manu stuffs and lucky packets or even ref gems, but if everyone is trying to sell those items, then who will buy them? You can't advice to everyone, oh cmon just farm something. There aren't that many items needed in this game.
Of course, there's always someone who plays more and becomes better which is fine. But adding too much stuff to Item Mall and getting easy money because of that is dumb. There are too many IM only items. I want a hard game too, but instead of working days to buy a 5-10mil ring from a maller, why not make a boss drop with low rate for the ring? Or a blueprint (with IM item) with very rare ingredients. The game would be hard for everyone, it would be more fair. That's all i want.

 

[ayhan123]

mallers dont get their real life money from trees. they also work for that. So why shouldnt you work in game some days to get a ring? the ring that will be the best forever.

 

[Death Knight]

why not make a boss drop with low rate for the ring?.

So u thing those "Mallers" would let u kill 'em bosses caz there so nice? Of course not!!!

 

[Shing]

So u thing those "Mallers" would let u kill 'em bosses caz there so nice? Of course not!!!

If we have a fair item mall, there are no P2W players, so you can kill those bosses too.

 

[Death Knight]

If we have a fair item mall, there are no P2W players, so you can kill those bosses too.

I honestly have no clue what ur tryna say. Just caz rings are in mall dosnt mean mallers whould just let u kill the bosses. Dude just like in real top the only way to win is to team up with other guilds

 

[Trademark]

mallers dont get their real life money from trees. they also work for that. So why shouldnt you work in game some days to get a ring? the ring that will be the best forever.

Thats not actually true since i actually got money to buy lots of rums but i dont have even half the time most mallers have here. I bet mostly its from thei parents guessing by the online time they have

 

[ayhan123]

Thats not actually true since i actually got money to buy lots of rums but i dont have even half the time most mallers have here. I bet mostly its from thei parents guessing by the online time they have

go ask your parents for some money then?

i personally dont get a single dime from my parents for personal usage

 

[Trademark]

go ask your parents for some money then?

i personally dont get a single dime from my parents for personal usage

I prefer their help in other ways....

 

[Akainu]

go ask your parents for some money then?

i personally dont get a single dime from my parents for personal usage

butthurt much?

 

[Vladist]

I started to play ToP back in 2007, played for 5 years and i never spent a dollar on the game. Though i was only able to join to second or third best guilds, it was fine. Some of you need to understand, it's not about how YOU play the game, it's about the average player. Like I can sell manu stuffs and lucky packets or even ref gems, but if everyone is trying to sell those items, then who will buy them? You can't advice to everyone, oh cmon just farm something. There aren't that many items needed in this game.
Of course, there's always someone who plays more and becomes better which is fine. But adding too much stuff to Item Mall and getting easy money because of that is dumb. There are too many IM only items. I want a hard game too, but instead of working days to buy a 5-10mil ring from a maller, why not make a boss drop with low rate for the ring? Or a blueprint (with IM item) with very rare ingredients. The game would be hard for everyone, it would be more fair. That's all i want.

I do kinda agree with this,i don't believe there should be too many item mall only items and also, not too expensive(Zankza please). if there was one thing i disliked about most private servers it was that they had mall sets that were untradable, and a reasonable gap between the maller set and the best set a non maller could get.. Mallers pay to get an edge and support the game, but i don't believe a non-maller should be stuck below all mallers, a non maller should be able to reach the lvl a maller can, but just much harder.
Anyway, i think Zankza should use up the vast content ToP has and add quests for items, i remember playing a private server where you had to do quest to get apparels. Vanilla doesn't mean you can't make changes for the better just means you sticking to the original gameplay and concept and not making everything OP with 20x exp and people with 150k max.

 

[Vladist]

Thinking about it now, a better way to put Unecks and Urings into the game could have been to add quests with increasing difficulty based on the lvl ring/neck you want and make it give a random voucher. Also, this way you'd allow the players to decide prices, based on demand, cash available and supply, instead of going according to gold to rum exchange rate.

 

[xRazor]

So basicly, yall are saying that mallers should advance just as fast as non-mallers. That's bullshit. Just saying.

 

[Brother]

Making award center or giving mall item for quest award and boss drop will just lead to abuse, oversupply, boss monopoly and lessen server's revenue which is going to kill this game very fast.

Making mall cheaper is better than giving free stuff. Cheaper mall can help non-maller to farm less gold and get their mall item faster, and attract more player to mall more.

 

[Shing]

Making award center or giving mall item for quest award and boss drop will just lead to abuse, oversupply, boss monopoly and lessen server's revenue which is going to kill this game very fast.

Making mall cheaper is better than giving free stuff. Cheaper mall can help non-maller to farm less gold and get their mall item faster, and attract more player to mall more.

We already have bosses with rare drops, we already have salvage spots with gem drops which is monopolized by few players. This is what MMORPG's about. And this is still better than items monopolized by mallers (in the end both ingame bosses, PK and because of the IM). Oversupply is much more worse with mallers, because they can buy any amount of items if they are rich enough in real life and they are willing to spend money on this game. How is killing a boss or making a blueprint in a hard way is worse than making mall cheaper? Ofc i didn't ask for a mini-boss drop with 30min respawn time.

So basicly, yall are saying that mallers should advance just as fast as non-mallers. That's bullshit. Just saying.

Not as fast, but currently they can sell way too many things. Apparels, inventory slots, HB, CB, nana, fusion scroll, rations, pet fruits, hairstyle stuffs, stat resets, forging items. They can still buy "any" amount of HB's, nanas and level faster (which is ok). I'm only against about OP items like rings, some forging stuffs, fairy box. MMORPG's should be about getting stuffs ingame and not from Item Mall.
A fair game has much more players and in the end he would be just more rich. Look at the most succesful F2P games, all of them is a fair game, not P2W.

 

[ayhan123]

Not as fast, but currently they can sell way too many things. Apparels, inventory slots, HB, CB, nana, fusion scroll, rations, pet fruits, hairstyle stuffs, stat resets, forging items. They can still buy "any" amount of HB's, nanas and level faster (which is ok). I'm only against about OP items like rings, some forging stuffs, fairy box. MMORPG's should be about getting stuffs ingame and not from Item Mall.
A fair game has much more players and in the end he would be just more rich. Look at the most succesful F2P games, all of them is a fair game, not P2W.

you can get hbs from fortune tree. You can easily buy any ring you want from stalls or mallers since they are really cheap right now.Mallers arent keeping the rings for just themselves so i really dont get why u are complainning. My guild has given away like 30 fairy box in past 5 days to newbies. Forging stuff(not gems) has to be in mall. Fusion scrolls are 50k at stalls. Stat resets is a luxury , if you dont plan ahead with your stats thats your own fault. Hairstyle stuff is a luxury . Apparels is a luxury. Inventory slots is mostly luxury unless you are a voy.

 

[xRazor]

This is top. This is P2W w/e you do. If you will remove the p2w part, the game is going to die out. FOX did try to remove the p2w part. Did it work out?