Planned Adjustment to DE Guns

[xmarwan]

I'm not going to post about other classes, since there are more experienced people to see what fits them, but for SS Death Guns which are Abaddon Vanquisher Abaddon Vanquisher , both seem good but they do take a lot of SSs power because of the -%ATK Speed, I see those should be adjusted or removed from them, losing a lot of ATK Speed for SS, it's already taking a lot of the class.. I wonder who even thought about having a gun should make u lose speed but a bow makes u faster.. Chinese mind so weird

 

[lionaxd00]

Agree lol

 

[Drakos94]

I would just suggest this:

Abaddon Vanquisher attack speed penalty to be removed, since it is the "Agi" version of it so it should have the most ASPD

As for

Abaddon Vanquisher it can be lowered to -5% only, given that it is the "Acc" which means its more of an offensive gun, so a small penalty might make sense, but I would even prefer it to be removed ..

I would go even for the unsealed 65 that should be a lesser version of those two
Rifle of Enigma the penalty should be more like -8% and the +8 spr states could be changed to +6 con states, since SPR makes totally no sense...

I wouldn't go for the other guns as they are dropped with random stats that's how it has been for them, you could get a good one or one that is totally useless.

I'm suggesting this based on discussion with guild mates not just my own opinion just to let u all know.

If you remove that penalty then what will you be doing with the Kiss of Death ? What would the difference be? As for the Abaddon Vanquisher , you can mostly reduce that penalty by gemming your eq with agi.

 

[xmarwan]

If you remove that penalty then what will you be doing with the Kiss of Death ? What would the difference be? As for the Abaddon Vanquisher , you can mostly reduce that penalty by gemming your eq with agi.

The Death bows are already OP, with the bonus of attack speed, so they are perfect as they are, I would just change the spr one with con

As for what you stated about gemming for agi to your eq, I would assume gemming wind into boots because they can’t be gemmed into gun, my answer here is that even with +5 ug wind, the penelty is still high because it affects as a percentage to the attack speed not a fixed amount if you do the math, so it’s still the same.

Difference between bow and gun is unchanged as bows still have the big advantages of longer range and a higher attack speed bonus, guns would still either have none or a small penalty.

 

[Fionca]

When Marwan suggest something, everyone shut up and agree

 

[xastax]

I don’t know why the disscusion about Bow or Gun, you are supposed to go from bow to gun once you become SS( ofc I know how fun and pro is a bow ss but is a personal choice you should accept the pros and cons of it). But that shouldn’t be a why in this post.
Gun amounts many other things I think should be fixed, the best dagger for a voy besides DE shouldn’t be a lv 50 one same for SS, or even the cler and sm doesn’t really benefit from DE weaps. I think they all should be addressed since BoE is really good for crus and both of the DE are OP.

 

[arickson]

free tekashi 69, its fucking treyway

 

[pedro jose]

it is only suggested that you have your same penalty only, that you recuse the penalty in half, when you reach 110% only! without making so much change

 

[xmarwan]

I don’t get how 110% will make the penalty halved

 

[xmarwan]

Here is a funny story:

my attack speed with gun: 207

my attack speed without gun: 216

P.S. it is Agi Death gun ….

 

[Check]

Here is a funny story:

my attack speed with gun: 207

my attack speed without gun: 216

P.S. it is Agi Death gun ….

basically you crying for 7 points of attack speed

 

[pedro jose]

when the 110% is placed on the gun it reduces the loss of attack speed! +1.48 add

 

[xmarwan]

when the 110% is placed on the gun it reduces the loss of attack speed! +1.48 add

are you sure? I have to test this, but I doubt it

 

[xmarwan]

basically you crying for 7 points of attack speed

lol why u liked the idea when u were a SS, not u pilot a champ u don't like it? what a true dog

 

[pedro jose]

it's just to press Shift and see your gun and you'll see how useless the change is with 110% complete, the readjustment of -12% with my gun +9 fc formerly
@xmarwan

 

[xmarwan]

Oh didn’t know that, I will check it later

 

[xmarwan]

it's just to press Shift and see your gun and you'll see how useless the change is with 110% complete, the readjustment of -12% with my gun +9 fc formerly
@xmarwan

But that means 110% make a -10% change to be -11% which is worse

 

[thebluehair]

No changes can be made, since if dev improve a class, all other ones should be improved too, otherwise it will be not fair.
Not agree with this, cos at this moment Sharpshooters on pk are really troublesome, they don't need to change.

 

[xmarwan]

No changes can be made, since if dev improve a class, all other ones should be improved too, otherwise it will be not fair.
Not agree with this, cos at this moment Sharpshooters on pk are really troublesome, they don't need to change.

We know all classes need to be improved especially regarding Death Items, cuz it’s only fair for champ and crus but others aren’t as powerful and fair, if u see SS is troublesome don’t look at my SS only lol.. see all other SSs that r in game how they suffer.. it’s a small change here as someone noted it’s only 9aspd change or so.. all classes have a room of improvement but not crus or champions they are ok as they are, as I said before first developers of the game aren’t that right about it, if so igg wouldn’t made changes for classes on top2 as per players request back then which were then changed by moliyo.

So here we all ask from @Developer and his team to consider classes balance, small minor changes nothing significant.

 

[pedro jose]

@xmarwan

it does not take anything away, it only lowers -12% of the weaponry! example: as shown -12% without 110% are almost 25 attack Speed points removed! when readjusted 110% only returns 6 points = / almost 10m invested for only 6 points is too sad.

@Developer

without making so much change only, it is better when the armament reaches 110% that reduction of -12% of any inusualed be reduced by half!




and the saddest of that -12% or armament that is lv45 / 55/65/75 Having that effect means that! each point you place in agi will be reduced by half, the more agi you have the more% will subtract from your agi. and with 2 soket with just placing the 1 wind gem per boot it is too hard to have a good ss with inusualed, almost impossible in lv45 but in lv 65+ it could be something more confident

but it can not be denied that, the ss are denied and the best weapons are the ones inusualed by their hit rate and damage bonuses


@xmarwan

it does not really go up to -11%


it only shows you that -10% of your armaa when you reach 110% would say (-10%) = (-1.45%) in total you are only taking away -10% having a -1% reduction when reaching 110% = / sad

 

[sarenokai]

I have same gun minus the BD eyes. Yea it does reduce the attack speed by another 1%

Another thing to note. it appears that upgrading your weapon only affects the weapon itself. all added gems do not increase with upgrading. interesting.