Reputation/Credits?

[Gratiansin]

Why we don't have a Reputation exchanger ? Or atlast Credit system

 

[ImCris]

Because its a p2w server

 

[PanMilan]

Because its a p2w server

nothing wrong with that

 

[Gratiansin]

Well, we need Pet fruits and rations , we need Candy sticks too, and others.
Just mentioned that in this case high lvl people will be always availbe to train new players.
Anyways , server needs more features. Ive seen posts where lot of Hard working people quited. Thats sad

 

[Zankza]

Ive seen posts where lot of Hard working people quited.

Yes it's hardcore server but how much you harness being smart is retroactively adjusting "difficulty". Most common players come in and expect to be greeted with auto-spawn gold in their inventory, they have never for once in their life tried chopping woods or collecting market-popular drops(nss) to quickly generate gold.

It's not about how hard you work, it's about how well you adjust.

 

[Leyna]

No matter how well you adjust the circulation of UG still pose problem as the way of getting them are limited and currently monopolize. For me that's why many old player quited. As for method of farming gold, most NSS spot are covered with botters or people, maybe inside the new guild system update the developer could put them at guild island. I don't fully agree with the p2w thingy though as there limited thing's we can get from IM though i did make easy gold by selling the RUMS =)

 

[PhilPhelps]

You seen Mall Equipment?
You seen Gems in Mall?
You seen HP/SP/STAT pots in Mall?

Or in your option
Every server that has Mall is p2w server?

Who said its necessary have Gems and equipaments on Item mall to be a P2w server...hahahahahahahahahahaha...your point of View is funny
its not necessary have Those itens to be a Pay 2 win server...(Dont be ignorant)....
When we have many itens Which ONLY can be get on Mall ( unique coral, unique ring, unique neck, Candies, pet fruits, fairy rations, Deminic fruits, Str crystals, Socket set, catalysts, Vodoo pupets, Morph runes,etc,etc,etc) ALL itens that make who buy Runs better than who doesn't , (AND DONT HAVE OTHER WAY TO OBTAIN IT,)..That we can considere P2w server
-"ohhh but u can buy from other players who sell it"
we talking about who buy RUMS be better than who doesn't, and buying rums make "seller" better than who doesn't in seconds....
-"not necessary"
yes necessary, Mr. Ignorant, Seller didn't do nothing on game and obtained those itens that make he/she rich in seconds....

Want an Example???? Tera Rising, other MMO game, have Item mall too, BUT ITS ONLY APPAREALS AND OTHER ITENS THAT DONT INTERFER ON STRENGHT AND BALENCE OF PLAYERS!!!!!

- "OHH broken inglish"
u understanded what i wanna say, so this argue is invalid and dont make me sad...

 

[Dakiller]

Who said its necessary have Gems and equipaments on Item mall to be a P2w server...hahahahahahahahahahaha...your point of View is funny
its not necessary have Those itens to be a Pay 2 win server...(Dont be ignorant)....
When we have many itens Which ONLY can be get on Mall ( unique coral, unique ring, unique neck, Candies, pet fruits, fairy rations, Deminic fruits, Str crystals, Socket set, catalysts, Vodoo pupets, Morph runes,etc,etc,etc) ALL itens that make who buy Runs better than who doesn't , (AND DONT HAVE OTHER WAY TO OBTAIN IT,)..That we can considere P2w server
-"ohhh but u can buy from other players who sell it"
we talking about who buy RUMS be better than who doesn't, and buying rums make "seller" better than who doesn't in seconds....
-"not necessary"
yes necessary, Mr. Ignorant, Seller didn't do nothing on game and obtained those itens that make he/she rich in seconds....

Want an Example???? Tera Rising, other MMO game, have Item mall too, BUT ITS ONLY APPAREALS AND OTHER ITENS THAT DONT INTERFER ON STRENGHT AND BALENCE OF PLAYERS!!!!!

- "OHH broken inglish"
u understanded what i wanna say, so this argue is invalid and dont make me sad...

Well Einstein. If all items on mall were obtainable in-game, why would anyone mall?
Furthermore, if no one malls, how is Zankza going to pay for the server and the staff? I bet that at running server+staff costs way over 2k usd per month. By selling useless items (AKA appareals) they would never be able to make that much money each month.

PKO is one of the least p2w games with microtransactions, so stop crying like a selfish cunt. Otherwise pay all the bills and i bet zankza would gladly remove item mall.

 

[PanMilan]

Well Einstein. If all items on mall were obtainable in-game, why would anyone mall?
Furthermore, if no one malls, how is Zankza going to pay for the server and the staff? I bet that at running server+staff costs way over 2k usd per month. By selling useless items (AKA appareals) they would never be able to make that much money each month.

PKO is one of the least p2w games with microtransactions, so stop crying like a selfish cunt. Otherwise pay all the bills and i bet zankza would gladly remove item mall.

Dakiller for president 2020

 

[PhilPhelps]

Well Einstein. If all items on mall were obtainable in-game, why would anyone mall?
Furthermore, if no one malls, how is Zankza going to pay for the server and the staff? I bet that at running server+staff costs way over 2k usd per month. By selling useless items (AKA appareals) they would never be able to make that much money each month.

PKO is one of the least p2w games with microtransactions, so stop crying like a selfish cunt. Otherwise pay all the bills and i bet zankza would gladly remove item mall.

DAMm why i have to read it???
HAHAHAHA, the MOST maller want to keep Item mall...why???
NAhh... im sure have many players who will buy those APPareals.
Btw its not necessary stop to sell itens on MALL... Only create other way to obtain those itens, like Award Center, or credit System
If im not mistaken thats the name of this Post, Einstein

 

[raposaazul]

DAMm why i have to read it???
HAHAHAHA, the MOST maller want to keep Item mall...why???
NAhh... im sure have many players who will buy those APPareals.
Btw its not necessary stop to sell itens on MALL... Only create other way to obtain those itens, like Award Center, or credit System
If im not mistaken thats the name of this Post, Einstein

rsrsrsrsrsrs....
PhilPhelps for leader of ONU!

 

[Dakiller]

DAMm why i have to read it???
HAHAHAHA, the MOST maller want to keep Item mall...why???
NAhh... im sure have many players who will buy those APPareals.
Btw its not necessary stop to sell itens on MALL... Only create other way to obtain those itens, like Award Center, or credit System
If im not mistaken thats the name of this Post, Einstein

Time for some math:

There are around 500 players who actually play the game and would be willing to buy some useless appareals. Appareals cost between 29 to 79 rums (normal ones). For the sake of your point of view, we will say that every appareal is 80 rums each, which translates into 8 usd each. If EVERYONE buys an appareal, zankza will make 4k usd. If we speculate that he spends 2k usd per month to keep it running, it would mean that he would only be able to keep it running for 2 months. Furthermore this is only a very rough approximation, 200 ppl at most would buy appareals since they are useless and no one would buy more than one.

Now, you say "btw its not necessary stop to sell itens in MALL... only create other way to obtain those itens" . If people would be able to obtain these items in game, why would someone spend real cash to obtain them? No one would buy rums, server wouldn't be able to make profit and would die.

As Zankza already said before, he is aworking in making a system like Award Center. If you weren't such a retard and would use your time to search through forum instead of crying you would've known that already.

And about me malling: yeah, i malled a whole damn lot and will continue doing so because I don't have enough time to play PKO hardcore, therefore i compensate with rums. But you should also know that i've been playing PKO since day one. And in spite of all that, im still not even one of the top 5 players in PKO, while many low or non mallers are.

Conclusion: stop being a bitch, mate.

 

[raposaazul]

Now, you say "btw its not necessary stop to sell itens in MALL... only create other way to obtain those itens" . If people would be able to obtain these items in game, why would someone spend real cash to obtain them? No one would buy rums, server wouldn't be able to make profit and would die.

ok, i think someone lost his argue...Other games like TOP1, TOp2 and many Privates Servers that have award system and reputation for credits many players stiil buy IMPS-(LOT of Imps), and game balance still works perfectly- (or start to works)
So lets try to dont insult other little friends like this:

If you weren't such a retard and would use your time to search through forum instead of crying you would've known that already.

 

[Dakiller]

ok, i think someone lost his argue...Other games like TOP1, TOp2 and many Privates Servers that have award system and reputation for credits many players stiil buy IMPS-(LOT of Imps), and game balance still works perfectly- (or start to works)

Yes, because item mall has items that aren't on award-center, unlike what that guy is tryign to have (an award center that has all mall items). About balance: The item mall in ToP1 and ToP2 were all but balanced. Anyone with 1k USD would get lv 4 UGs and instantly become top 10% player.

So lets try to dont insult other little friends like this:

He is wasting everyone's time by posting about this, which was already discussed several times before. He could simply use the search function of the forum to get to those topics. Zankza already said that he was going to implement an award-center like system, called "Honor for Pirates" or something like that. Why keep pushing this useless topic if it isn't going to change anything? Let's just wait to see what Zankza does and then open a discussion to see what to add or change.

I have 0 patience with lazy fucks. You've got a brain, use it.

 

[FinalLegacy]

To answer the question: something similar is supposed to be on the works.

The reason it's not up yet is because there are a lot of balancing to do. The fact is that, even if you make it available with the purpose of helping non-mallers, mallers could abuse it nonetheless. In fact, people who mall tend to be able to log more chars(they have money so it's easy to assume they have better internet connection, better pc), making things like reputations easier to farm.

The point I'm trying to make is that, the reason it's not up yet is because it can, and will be abused if not done properly, and if anything, the ones higher up would still have the upper hand on taking advantage of that too.

Going off-topic:

People shouldn't cry about things being monopolized by people on the higher end of the spectrum. Thats the nature of this very game. The only way to get ahead of them is to work harder and more efficient than them until you're among them. It's hard but not impossible, especially because at some point those guys above start slacking off outside of CA, BD, DW.... etc. not to mention that gemming and leveling gets harder allowing us to catch up

Regarding the p2w thing.... I have a very long opinion of it which you can skip but I feel like I should share it:

This is probably as close as it gets for this game to not being p2w. Almost everything but the apparels in the mall are consumables and something the server needs to survive. I've made this point before in another post but right now: $100 = 1k Rums = 40m = 2UGs.... That really isn't much, and that's probably the budget of most people on rums.

Now you wanna argue that $1000 = 10k rums = 400m = 20 UGs..... If you were a cruz that could translate to 2x lv3 rage(7 each) + lv2 colo(3) + lv2 wind(3). Now I'm already being very lenient on prices as rums go for 35k most days and UGs usually go for more than 20m atm. For that much money to only get you the gems and still need refs and the proper equipment, not to mentions str crystals and apparels and sockets.... If someone wanted to pay real money that much to get that far ahead they deserve to be that far ahead and you just have to suck it up. Even then they'd have to go through the trouble of selling the rums, finding the gems, buying the equipments(which are rare and expensive right now), etc. Then you still have to work on pets and leveling yourself....

You can certainly get ahead by spending money but it's all pretty useless if you don't put in the work in game. You can call it p2w all you want but it's not as easy as some people make it out to be. Know that the game was designed to be hard and however hard it is for you, it was just as hard for most people up there and everyone really. There was a time when they didn't have those UGs and nobody would buy that rum and they had to level up from 40 and live off of skel/inc/eva/enigma chests and nss until they finally got those unseals and other stuff. Work, like they did.

tl;dr

What I'm trying to say is, get over this whole p2w thing because compared to top2(as most have been referencing) this is friendlier to the average guy.

 

[Leyna]

+1 FInal Legacy =)