Regarding FC this is really boring .. Zankza help !

[xhannodx]

Hi,
Dear @Zankza @Developer ..
as FCer .. we are facing a really hard time in FC for totally nothing..
1- We pay 15-20k for AG every entrance ! ( we go 3-4 times coz of pk ) = around 40 to 80k
2- We pay ship manu,FB and cakes ( which is considered normal potting ) unless some use Buns and soups etc
3- We pay for amp of luck 35k-40k to farm
4- We are usually 5-6 persons each FC
One person farm the rest sit at dock for one hour protecting or more than 1 hour .. after that long protecting time and waiting = 0 ref ! so we all go back with wasted around 100k for 0 gold .. how we will gem this way? how we will improve ? why we will still play? and even if we are lucky we get 1 ref ..
1 ref for 5-6 persons .. 90 or 80k each !! not even the money u paid to come FC ..
i just farmed 2 waves of FC1 and my guild was protecting dock and got zero ref :\ 2 hours in FC for 0 gold
and it not only 0 its by negative .. coz i paid 2 amps poss buffs manus pk in begining.
at least make 1st ref drop high then reduce it .. at least make sure we get 1 ref not zero ..
believe me FC is not worthing playing if it will keep like this and its not a money making map at all.
if u are going to say DK gives U gems .. exchange it for something better percent ! we killed him many times and never got Ugems drop just medal and chest of lv35 sealed item..
wasting time of 6 persons and manu and poss and pk for 0.04 or 0.08% u gem drop which means kill it 1000 times to get 1 u gem .. totally not worth it .. if u add to the FC3 boss drop to 100% ref better than u gem which dont come lol at least 5 persons didnt waste time on DK for nothing.
all ppl here come fc for week or 2 then leave .. no money at all.. alot of ppl in FC mall and iam one of them but we also need FC to support us with gold too .. also the refining is nothing now its sold 400 and 450k coz of StoryQuest spammers.
i've been FCer now for like 2 months or so .. total gain from FC in this 2 months is zero .. all wasted on AG manus and i already pay from my own to be able keep going :')

Thanks for your efforts PKO team to improve the game, and we need some updates in FC

 

[xhannodx]

waiting FCers comments about it

 

[Leba]

You listed out some nice arguments, but you didn't give a single suggestion on how those problems can be solved.

DK gives U gems .. exchange it for something better percent !

Like what? UGs are very low supply and high demand, the low drop rates are there to reward consistency, a UG is bound to pop out sometime and the investments for a large number of FCs will pay off. I can't really think of any items which can have a good drop rate percent and not oversupply the economy from a boss like DK. Maybe you can list out some items you'd think are fair?

 

[xhannodx]

i made this topic to discuss together what we can do for it .. maybe we add ref 100% drop with dk .. at least after 5 persons efforts to kill DK get 1 ref not nothing ... and keep the u gems so if got no u gem .. there is 1 ref dropped which at LEAST cover what we paid to reach boss3 (including pk and time wasted).
this is not neccessary what i want .. but we really need to get some gold ! gold from FC not enought to feed my pet =x

 

[Kolera]

my lowly suggestions:

• 100% ref drop rate from boss *maybe for ds boss too
• make AG a requirement for entering FC3 instead.

well, yer thoughts?

 

[Rivendel]

Make ref drop rate 0.5%

 

[pucoski123]

is it the same situation with DS?

 

[xhannodx]

yea i agree .. add to that fc3 boss is much way harder than ds3 boss but its fine XD
also in DS ur runes are sold really good Fel Tefs
while our runes i throw to npc..

 

[xhannodx]

is it the same situation with DS?

i dont know about DS iam talking about FC which we really make 0 gold

 

[xhannodx]

Make ref drop rate 0.5%

its not only about dorp rate .. we want at least make sure 1 ref per spawn coz really full spawn zero ref makes u feel sick specially when u are 5-6 waiting the farm result !

 

[ovidiurus92]

something like Fairy of Luck give drop rate on poss ... that sucks, that fairy give nothing .... and you are right 0.04 - 0.08 drop rate for u.gem is verry low. the mob is boss of fc, is not normaly mob. that´s why i don´t like to play on low lvl, you get nothing from dungeons ... only in CA is high drop for u.gem ... make it 2% drop or 1.5% and Fairy of Luck to give drop, than we can get 2-3 gems for 100 kills, and you know is not easy to kill a boss at low lvl

 

[Rivendel]

Back in TOP2 i think it was 0.2% and players ussing only mordojr poss they allways got some refs. making 0.5% and using Luck amps I think would be 100% sure that you will get atleast a ref farming in FC1. since there is more than 100 mobs

 

[Silvester9]

I'm an FC player too , and it seriously isn't paying off , I totally agree with you
sometimes we also have to log in a buffer or a sea voy in addition to our main characters , that means additional AGs , additional Manu and all
if you don't wanna do something about the AGs the least you can do is increase the drop for refs , and maybe add other gems to the drop chances , from normal mobs , like lusts ,spirits( I know they drop spirit gems , because it happened ONCE with me ) , shadow and furuious don't really sell so even when they drop they are kept unpicked , atm I can't come up with any more ideas ,,, Zankza please come up with something

 

[xhannodx]

something like Fairy of Luck give drop rate on poss ... that sucks, that fairy give nothing .... and you are right 0.04 - 0.08 drop rate for u.gem is verry low. the mob is boss of fc, is not normaly mob. that´s why i don´t like to play on low lvl, you get nothing from dungeons ... only in CA is high drop for u.gem ... make it 2% drop or 1.5% and Fairy of Luck to give drop, than we can get 2-3 gems for 100 kills, and you know is not easy to kill a boss at low lvl

they said fairy of luck poss is not giving any drop rate.. and about boss is really not easy we need sealer reviver cruses voy .. we want at least every FC get back the money we paid .. at least ..

 

[xhannodx]

Back in TOP2 i think it was 0.2% and players ussing only mordojr poss they allways got some refs. making 0.5% and using Luck amps I think would be 100% sure that you will get atleast a ref farming in FC1. since there is more than 100 mobs

Add to that they got chipped and borken gem which was source of money of too .. and nothing cheaper than ref atm xx

 

[Developer]

One person farm the rest sit at dock for one hour protecting or more than 1 hour

First of all. It seems you guys failed school math tests.
Probability chances increase when you do it repeatable. If you have more then one person farming, the drop rate increases.

Second. We do not like the fact that some just "protect" the entry.
It's not just happening in FC, but also DS and BD mazes.
And it's really annoying.
May-be we should add some small immunity effect upon entering until first action?

Remember. Mazes are not meant for farm. But they are meant for cooperative challenge and strengthening bounds between players towards more challenging areas.

 

[ovidiurus92]

Fairy of Luck was made for drop rate, that´s why fairy of evil was for exp. and mordo jr is 3 pets 2gen in 1 ... so that sucks, we marry pets we spend money to grow up one fairy of luck and we get nothing ... than make it to give 2x stats to poss if you don´t want to give us drop rate ... that is really suck !!!

 

[xhannodx]

@Developer according farming should we all farm and waste like 4 AMPs ? and we will try this next FC :\
and about mazez meant to challenge .. so whats our gaining gold source as low level FCers

 

[pucoski123]

Remember. Mazes are not meant for farm. But they are meant for cooperative challenge and strengthening bounds between players towards more challenging areas.

That solves it lol

 

[ovidiurus92]

you know what ... i regret because i came back to play this game, because i spend 200$ to buy Rums !!! those GMs don´t help us. don´t make the game better ... you can´t aford to buy u.gems, only if u buy rums, only high lvl players can aford u.gems, and new players ? we have to buy rums or we can´t get better right ?why don´t u put back broken and cracked gems ? so low lvl players may have a chance ...