Morph Runestone in mall

[Dakiller]

sorry buddy but you are like 14-16%bf + at the photo plus bellow 10% isnt healthy and it is not achiavable by a guy who plays 24/7

You clearly have no idea about me or what 14-16% BF is.

 

[Goners]

[QUOTE="aquaricky, post: 6706, member: 644 i see new players playing for 1 week and then wanna buy a full DS set not cuz of hard work but because they did mall that 10k rum.[/QUOTE]

I've said this on another thread and yet again I'm not trying to justify myself, nor do I stand up for EVERY person who buys rum. I work about 5-6 days a week out of those days they are about 7-12 hour shifts give or take. We're all adults here I'm assuming, so we all know what work is like in real life...no? It's hard it's tiring and it's a huge chunk of your day. Sitting here having people say malling is easy? Yeah, but getting money to mall isn't hahaha. I have normally an hour to an hour and a half to play (2-4 if I'm really lucky) anything longer than that means I'm away from my computer. I'm still working for my equipment just saying, the mall is a HUGE buffer for people like myself who can't invest 10-12 hours on the game like we used to back in 2008, so go figure eh?

P.S Even when I mall to buy that piece of equipment? Or that HB and Nana? I still have to invest time to get to the level haha that's no secret. 15 minutes seems so little, but it's so much damn time in my world.

What I'M stoked on for this game is that Zankza didn't implement items in the mall that could take people like myself who have full capability of dipping money on a game and skyrocket to people who are in the top guild in a day like the original developers did with ToP and made it unbearable for people who couldn't mall or had worked so hard to get to where they are at. That's why I stand here and say it's quite balanced, the people who are complaining aren't investing time or are losing patience with the game because they aren't where they wanna be or they don't have what they want to have. Again its all a grind for Non-Mallers and Mallers alike.

 

[Dreadlocked]

You clearly have no idea about me or what 14-16% BF is.

dude dont ,u have not the slighest clue about working out or body anatomy dont talk to a guy who studies anatomy and gymnastics for 8 years

 

[Dakiller]

dude dont ,u have not the slighest clue about working out or body anatomy dont talk to a guy who studies anatomy and gymnastics for 8 years

Well, you might have studied alot, but i bet you have less experience than somebody who has worked out the last 6 years and gained over 20kg lean mass. If you wanna continue talking, talk through private, this is too off topic.

 

[Geddon]

Getting the Kals is not the issue here. Getting people geared is.

 

[aquaricky]

[QUOTE="aquaricky, post: 6706, member: 644 i see new players playing for 1 week and then wanna buy a full DS set not cuz of hard work but because they did mall that 10k rum.

I've said this on another thread and yet again I'm not trying to justify myself, nor do I stand up for EVERY person who buys rum. I work about 5-6 days a week out of those days they are about 7-12 hour shifts give or take. We're all adults here I'm assuming, so we all know what work is like in real life...no? It's hard it's tiring and it's a huge chunk of your day. Sitting here having people say malling is easy? Yeah, but getting money to mall isn't hahaha. I have normally an hour to an hour and a half to play (2-4 if I'm really lucky) anything longer than that means I'm away from my computer. I'm still working for my equipment just saying, the mall is a HUGE buffer for people like myself who can't invest 10-12 hours on the game like we used to back in 2008, so go figure eh?

P.S Even when I mall to buy that piece of equipment? Or that HB and Nana? I still have to invest time to get to the level haha that's no secret. 15 minutes seems so little, but it's so much damn time in my world.

What I'M stoked on for this game is that Zankza didn't implement items in the mall that could take people like myself who have full capability of dipping money on a game and skyrocket to people who are in the top guild in a day like the original developers did with ToP and made it unbearable for people who couldn't mall or had worked so hard to get to where they are at. That's why I stand here and say it's quite balanced, the people who are complaining aren't investing time or are losing patience with the game because they aren't where they wanna be or they don't have what they want to have. Again its all a grind for Non-Mallers and Mallers alike.[/QUOTE]


I completely understand what your saying and im not opposed to mallers, what i dont like is when you move rewards from game content from the game itself to the mall. All that does is make non mallers frustrated (because your forced to do the same old grind to buy expensive and NECESSARY items from mallers) and it makes mallers bored because they dont have to work for the item they just need to buy it (basically kills the fun). If you wanted to solve this issue there are Tons of ways to add kals to the game from the newly implemented Tiger gambling to even adding it to the weak crafting system. Or make new bosses for kals or a quest etc. Yea its not the plain old vanilla but it solves problems in a way that doesnt take away from the game. I mean if u wanna just do the simple solution and add to the mall without considering the games balance thats zankza's choice.

 

[Shinon12345]

I mean if u wanna just do the simple solution and add to the mall without considering the games balance thats zankza's choice

Simply adding to the mall probably won't do.
I guess obtaining Kals through events would be a thing that could be done. Soon there's gonna be some more holidays like isn't it Thanksgiving or Halloween soon? I guess some events could be held during these days and some of these things COULD somehow be rewarded.

 

[Zlatan]

Simply adding to the mall probably won't do.
I guess obtaining Kals through events would be a thing that could be done. Soon there's gonna be some more holidays like isn't it Thanksgiving or Halloween soon? I guess some events could be held during these days and some of these things COULD somehow be rewarded.

put it on auction, gg everyone wins!

 

[PanMilan]

I'm just saying if this item was in the mall, there would be 3-4 different guilds battling it out at CA/DW and maybe even BD. How boring does this game look when people come here and see that there's NO way for new players to win against the first ones. Full heal feature is one reason.
And don't forget you can just relog in BD lair. So BD is not a hard boss to do anymore. Just make a few alts of ss and sm's keep BD sealed and kill with 1 or 2 voys.
BlackDragon gives some OP gems that can make the character unbeatable. So why is it so easy to obtain? remove the relog aspect let people gem up and try to do BD with a full guild and not a few alts, with non stop revive.

oh and there will never be pk there anyway. I mean even if someone tries to pk, just relog, use a full heal pot/cheat engine and repeat, whatever its soo easy when you can relog. will end up like dream city relog pk.

When i was reading about this game and people talking about oldschool and that a lot of guilds would pk eachother, seemed so fun. now? not so much :L that's my honest opinion

 

[aquaricky]

I'm just saying if this item was in the mall, there would be 3-4 different guilds battling it out at CA/DW and maybe even BD. How boring does this game look when people come here and see that there's NO way for new players to win against the first ones. Full heal feature is one reason.
And don't forget you can just relog in BD lair. So BD is not a hard boss to do anymore. Just make a few alts of ss and sm's keep BD sealed and kill with 1 or 2 voys.
BlackDragon gives some OP gems that can make the character unbeatable. So why is it so easy to obtain? remove the relog aspect let people gem up and try to do BD with a full guild and not a few alts, with non stop revive.

oh and there will never be pk there anyway. I mean even if someone tries to pk, just relog, use a full heal pot/cheat engine and repeat, whatever its soo easy when you can relog. will end up like dream city relog pk.

When i was reading about this game and people talking about oldschool and that a lot of guilds would pk eachother, seemed so fun. now? not so much :L that's my honest opinion

Ye but we are all saying that using the mall as a solution is close minded and isnt actually a correct fix. If the items (kals) are too expensive (or rare) and your worrying about noobs catching up that means that at a fundamental level you need to add other methods of getting the item(kals). These methods however still need to match the lvl of difficulty of the last one but not be restricted by the current problems of the exsisting methods (in this case Low drop rates in a PK zone). For example a method could be high level salvaging that drops kals(This recycles a little used feature of the game)

 

[PanMilan]

Please... I'm just saying there are other aspects of the game that can potentially ruin it like reloging in BD changing what TOP and PKO use to be.

And you're all worrying about 65 unseals getting in the hands of a few mallers willing to pay 100 usd +

 

[Shinon12345]

put it on auction, gg everyone wins!

how does everyone win if only a few people can win an auction?

 

[Zlatan]

how does everyone win if only a few people can win an auction?

get rich or die tryin

 

[Shinon12345]

get rich or die tryin

wtf...

 

[blankalack]

make a new maze, with overwhelming boss that drops morph runestone

 

[Draconus]

[QUOTE="aquaricky, post: 6706, member: 644 i see new players playing for 1 week and then wanna buy a full DS set not cuz of hard work but because they did mall that 10k rum.

I've said this on another thread and yet again I'm not trying to justify myself, nor do I stand up for EVERY person who buys rum. I work about 5-6 days a week out of those days they are about 7-12 hour shifts give or take. We're all adults here I'm assuming, so we all know what work is like in real life...no? [/QUOTE]
Then there are people who don't work for shyt, arabs for example, and have all the money they need to mall.

 

[aquaricky]

I've said this on another thread and yet again I'm not trying to justify myself, nor do I stand up for EVERY person who buys rum. I work about 5-6 days a week out of those days they are about 7-12 hour shifts give or take. We're all adults here I'm assuming, so we all know what work is like in real life...no?

Then there are people who don't work for shyt, arabs for example, and have all the money they need to mall.[/QUOTE]

hypocrite? You dont want me to say mallers dont work for anything but then bash an entire country ? and your not standing up for mallers because no one is fighting against them so get off the entitlement train if u read my other posts you notice i specifically fight against the P2W mentality and that's what ill continue to do because its going to ruin the game just like in every other private server since all these admins think that adding to the mall is a solution for real game issues.

 

[Goners]

I had seen notifications its just I never had time to input anything,

I'm just saying if this item was in the mall, there would be 3-4 different guilds battling it out at CA/DW and maybe even BD. How boring does this game look when people come here and see that there's NO way for new players to win against the first ones.

How boring does the game look when there's an easy way out through a quick-fix? It then undermines people playing the game and only logging on for CA/DW/BD like it always has, henceforth "End-Game" in a short open.

Getting the Kals is not the issue here. Getting people geared is.

The true issue of the topic(although the title says otherwise). Just so that people are aware of that.

If you wanted to solve this issue there are Tons of ways to add kals to the game from the newly implemented Tiger gambling to even adding it to the weak crafting system. Or make new bosses for kals or a quest etc. Yea its not the plain old vanilla but it solves problems in a way that doesnt take away from the game. I mean if u wanna just do the simple solution and add to the mall without considering the games balance thats zankza's choice.

+This, This will get people to play and progress to get something through time. I say this, but make the %rates Reasonable so people aren't laboring away for something so long it's unbearable and by the time they get it it's hard to enjoy it.
This will help gear people but not to the point where someone new can jump in and instantly get to where the top guild is at, It also prevents the top guild from preventing other players move forward in unsealing the equipment(Stated by shinon we have an overflow of 65 sealed). We all know the top guild wants to PK, however you will not get that through monopolizing a map and we all know they won't give up a DW/CA/BD to let people catch up.

It will take time but people will reach the level's and be geared and to make myself clear It's still going to be a grind. You have to make it to the top.

And don't forget you can just relog in BD lair. So BD is not a hard boss to do anymore. Just make a few alts of ss and sm's keep BD sealed and kill with 1 or 2 voys.
BlackDragon gives some OP gems that can make the character unbeatable. So why is it so easy to obtain? remove the relog aspect let people gem up and try to do BD with a full guild and not a few alts, with non stop revive.

oh and there will never be pk there anyway. I mean even if someone tries to pk, just relog, use a full heal pot/cheat engine and repeat, whatever its soo easy when you can relog. will end up like dream city relog pk.

When i was reading about this game and people talking about oldschool and that a lot of guilds would pk eachother, seemed so fun. now? not so much :L that's my honest opinion

There was a topic earlier about the SM skills being tweaked, which I approve of because SM is a fun class but its oldschool feel was unbearable. If that gets fixed what can prevent BD from being a PK and Un-Reloggable Zone ? And besides it Should be if Zankza is preparing BD to be a respawn of every 3.5 days regardless as a step toward balance I say make it a PK zone and make it a fight by that time this server is ready to face it.

As for the gemming back in the original top I had always said that they should have capped certain gems like they did with the cracked gems, as weird as it sounds its as balanced as it could be due to the nature of how crazy stats exponentially get when they hit a certain number. That being said Capping UG's to at least 4, aswell as BD gems. Simply because although AZ gems won't be inputted (I really hope not) I do not EVER want to see a 2 minute DW or BD in my life again. Sure having lv4 gems wont make it that fast of a map run, but its approachable for players and it wont exponentially Overpower any player, and it could run a map about maybe to 25-30minutes worth of ACTUAL pk.

Just some thoughts, correct me if I'm wrong or if you don't agree on anything. I'm not dismissive on anything we're all here to play a game we love, also wanting it to be better than what it was.

 

[Shing]

Why so hard to make stuffs ingame obtainable? New/old boss drops, mob drops, mazes, sea bosses? All i see in these topics the same 3-4 mallers asking things for Item Mall stuff. There are already too much items for money. Stop fighting for more P2W stuff and ruining the fun for everyone...

 

[PanMilan]

There was a topic earlier about the SM skills being tweaked, which I approve of because SM is a fun class but its oldschool feel was unbearable. If that gets fixed what can prevent BD from being a PK and Un-Reloggable Zone ? And besides it Should be if Zankza is preparing BD to be a respawn of every 3.5 days regardless as a step toward balance I say make it a PK zone and make it a fight by that time this server is ready to face it.

what do you mean? lol

BD has been done by abysall many times already, all they had to do was make a few ss and sm alts and farm passes ONE time only since after they enter the bd lair 2 they can just keep chars logged off there for the next wave of BD.

No more cost of summer tix, no more wasting all day to farm entries to enter bd lair 2 and get bd gems easy with no pk.

The hardest and most fun boss, to do in game has turned into an alt fest.
With the best rewards...

If relog was disabled in that map then full guilds would have to go together, farm passes all day, get enough summer tix, tank weaker chars through summer, and finally enjoy some pk. But @Zankza doesn't understand that, too bad.