Let's talk about seal master.

[4305370]

PKO top 50 highest lvls:
24 crusaders
9 voyagers
8 clerics
5 champions
4 sharpshooters
1 seal master - Swift (congratulations, btw)

So what's wrong with this class? Is it underpowered? Underplayed? Or just not fun? I have decided to ask highest lvl SM - player Swift, what does he think about this class.

He thinks that SM indeed needs a buff and has many flaws, just to mention some:
a) SM's rebirth skill is useless
b) In Tales of Pirates, seals used to deal damage. Here they do not and your only source of dmg is Spiritual Bolt.
c) To level up, you need a party. Inside the party, you need to heal - this is the only way you can be useful in PVE. But to heal well, you need to invest in SPR. But investing in SPR makes no sense - SPR SM will be too easily killed - unlike SPR clerics who have energy shield.


Feel free to share your thoughts, especially Zankza

 

[Spidpex]

Should never buff any class, as it would ruin the original Vanilla feeling of the game

 

[4305370]

Should never buff any class, as it would ruin the original Vanilla feeling of the game

You say that only because you play as crus.

 

[Spidpex]

You say that only because you play as crus.

Not really, if we want this server to stay as it stayed back in 2006, we need to keep its class features the same way, and yes i play crus, mainly because i grew up playing the class as a kid

 

[dader]

there were also some mini stuns as well with a seals

 

[Zedain]

It is true that crus is a complete assassin but even just to be an average lv 55 ds crusader it takes around 100-120m (including the money for does, pet 2nd gen, frame etc). However if u invest the same amount of money in any other class u can be far more than average. Plus with the right tactics and pk skills a SM can be deadly as well.

 

[dader]

I think there was already a post about sm rb skill , the problem seems to be that it dsnt affect enemy stats in a negative way like the description says, actually only deal like 35? dmg

 

[4305370]

It is true that crus is a complete assassin but even just to be an average lv 55 ds crusader it takes around 100-120m (including the money for does, pet 2nd gen, frame etc). However if u invest the same amount of money in any other class u can be far more than average. Plus with the right tactics and pk skills a SM can be deadly as well.

Invest 100m in SM and you are decent. Invest 100m in cleric and you are OP.

 

[dader]

with 100m you cant make a decent sm

 

[Zedain]

Invest 100m in SM and you are decent. Invest 100m in cleric and you are OP.

If we look at what you are trying to say then it means that a cler is the most OP class since spr is their def, spr is their health and spr is their attack. So what do you want now we degrade cleric since we cannot buff all classes to match its level???

 

[JohnnyV]

We have high level voyagers because of their facility of leveling up.Voyagers and seal masters are the weakest right now,voyagers cant even use tornado skill ,they have to sacrifice it for a neck of mov speed,so they can have a chance to survive while PKing.Igg was a fking pay to win company,but atleast they tried to balance the classes,implementing coral with decent stats not the current ones and also implementing damage to seal masters skills.Of course lets not forget about the lack of gems,the current gems(Ugs,BD gems and etc) are obviously a lot more favorable to physical classes than to magical classes.While they have BD eye,Gem of Rage and Gem of Striking for damage what the magical classes have?Gem of Soul and Spirit Gem?Lmao.Atleast implement chipped and cracked gems so it can be more fair.

 

[backfromashes]

Reminder that Swift leveled as Cleric and only became Seal Master after rebirth

 

[LuisaRLZ]

Have in mind the mini stun and the damaging seals were added only after ToPII came out. ToPI seal masters worked exactly as they do in PKO.

However Seal Master is mostly a pointless class, why?

To have a decent bolt damage, you would need to be full spr, and being full spr means you will be 1-slashed. So in that case, you make a cleric.
To be a sealer but still deal some damage, you better become a sharp shooter.
With the excess of clerics there are in PKO, seal master seals get recovered within 2 seconds after being used.

So, yeah, it's mostly pointless to focus on being a seal master when you could get a much more satisfying result by either being a cleric or a sharp shooter. I myself chose to be a cleric because of this very reason (I like seal master much more than cleric).

Personally I wouldnt mind seal masters getting the seal effects from ToPII. After all, the damage was based in spr difference, and most seal masters will choose to be full con anyway, so the seal damage wouldnt be that bad, specially when it can be quickly recovered.

 

[dader]

Reminder that Swift leveled as Cleric and only became Seal Master after rebirth

this explain all about SMs....

 

[dader]

At least fix that rb skill... its a shame, and i am not talking about buffing it , just make it work how it is supposed to work.

 

[dader]

when i get hitted by that skill i feel bad for that sm

 

[4305370]

Reminder that Swift leveled as Cleric and only became Seal Master after rebirth

Also during my interview with Swift he said that if he could "restart again" he would become cleric.

 

[DontBanMe]

There will never be a class ballance update on a vanilla 1x rate server, period.

 

[dader]

There will never be a class ballance update on a vanilla 1x rate server, period.

True, we can stop.

 

[MZarur]

Rebirth Skill from SM is the most op. It reduces your movement speed, your defense, and your max attack. It can be casted from a very long range and effect is in area. It also cause constantly damage.
But in my opinion, SM seals should never fail on bosses. The class called Seal MASTER has chances of failing seal, while Sharpshooters has 100% success on enfeeble and cripple.