Defoliate Pines...

[Yach317]

Hi everyone, I don't know if this has been discussed before (did a fast check and didn't find a post about it), but i believe that the number of Defoliate Pines in the server has to be raised, there's just 7!!! and we only got like 5 ways to do money in the game from which 2 depend on the use of the Ash Wood Strips, one is to sell manufacture recipe items and the other one to do manufacture items, and the problem comes mainly cause there's too many assholes that spawn like 5 alts, one on every Defoliate Pine spawn point so they get all of the Ash Wood Logs. I'm not saying that there has to be like 50 spawns, but maybe a bit more could make things a lot better without making an unbalance.
Like i said i didn't happen to find a post about this so i think it would be good that you guys leave a comment.

 

[Brayohan]

Hi everyone, I don't know if this has been discussed before (did a fast check and didn't find a post about it), but i believe that the number of Defoliate Pines in the server has to be raised, there's just 7!!! and we only got like 5 ways to do money in the game from which 2 depend on the use of the Ash Wood Strips, one is to sell manufacture recipe items and the other one to do manufacture items, and the problem comes mainly cause there's too many assholes that spawn like 5 alts, one on every Defoliate Pine spawn point so they get all of the Ash Wood Logs. I'm not saying that there has to be like 50 spawns, but maybe a bit more could make things a lot better without making an unbalance.
Like i said i didn't happen to find a post about this so i think it would be good that you guys leave a comment.

Buenos dias... no coincido contigo creo que la cantidad de Defoliate Pines esta bien solo que tu te limitas a conseguir solo dinero de esa manera, pero no es la unica manera de conseguir dinero, tambien puedes sacar dinero de tus Fairy Coins o de los Elven Signet ademas cosas como esas sencillas que se hacen solas las puedes vender, NSS, Pure water, los smuggles, DS, son muchas cosas que de poco a poco puedes ir haciendo dinero no te limites a solo talar arboles, si no de costara muchisimo. no lo tomes a mal, es solo unas palabras de animo que de todo se puede sacar cosas positivas

 

[Xankoru]

I strongly agree also. Plant more trees plox!

 

[Rhymzess]

I don't get it why can't there be a limit on how many clients per IP are allowed. Allow 2 or maybe 3 clients per IP and the amount of alt wood choppers, howlers and bots will be decreased noticeably.

 

[Leba]

I believe the small number of Trees limits the supply and keeps the prices a bit more stable, if everyone was able to chop, the number of manu items on the market might increase by quite a bit. If the market becomes too saturated, prices would have to go down.

I don't get it why can't there be a limit on how many clients per IP are allowed. Allow 2 or maybe 3 clients per IP and the amount of alt wood choppers, howlers and bots will be decreased noticeably.

Restricting anything based on IP can be abused in some way, not an expert, but, I believe VPN is one method of getting around it.

 

[Rhymzess]

Restricting anything based on IP can be abused in some way, not an expert, but, I believe VPN is one method of getting around it.

Sure, there will be always some of those people who will go the extra mile to achieve that.
Sure, you can't create a bulletproof method, but at least by adding some sort of block you will noticeably decrease the total amount of those afk'ers.

 

[Leba]

Sure, there will be always some of those people who will go the extra mile to achieve that.
Sure, you can't create a bulletproof method, but at least by adding some sort of block you will noticeably decrease the total amount of those afk'ers.

I'm pretty sure the people who are already "botting" or using alts in a profitable way wouldn't mind walking the extra mile to keep making profit.

The only people affected by this are those using alts for PK or just random stuff.

 

[Rhymzess]

I'm pretty sure the people who are already "botting" or using alts in a profitable way wouldn't mind walking the extra mile to keep making profit.

The only people affected by this are those using alts for PK or just random stuff.

Sure, generally that's what I said.
At least the problem would be approached one step at a time.

People with allowed 2 or 3 clients would still be able to do their random stuff.

 

[Yach317]

Buenos dias... no coincido contigo creo que la cantidad de Defoliate Pines esta bien solo que tu te limitas a conseguir solo dinero de esa manera, pero no es la unica manera de conseguir dinero, tambien puedes sacar dinero de tus Fairy Coins o de los Elven Signet ademas cosas como esas sencillas que se hacen solas las puedes vender, NSS, Pure water, los smuggles, DS, son muchas cosas que de poco a poco puedes ir haciendo dinero no te limites a solo talar arboles, si no de costara muchisimo. no lo tomes a mal, es solo unas palabras de animo que de todo se puede sacar cosas positivas

Entiendo a qué te refieres, el problema es que en los mejores spot de NSS (thickskin lizards y smugglers) también hay mucha gente y solucionar eso si sería mas difícil y con respecto a los Pure Water es una buena forma de hacer dinero, pero si vas comenzando y ya yo he progresado un poco además de que conocía le juego ya, pero poner un mayor número de defoliate trees no afectara casi en nada.

 

[Yach317]

I don't get it why can't there be a limit on how many clients per IP are allowed. Allow 2 or maybe 3 clients per IP and the amount of alt wood choppers, howlers and bots will be decreased noticeably.

I thought about that too hahahahaha, but I think that would affect a bit the essence of the game since TOP or PKO has always been caracterized by the fact that you NEED multiple accounts, maybe a concientization campaing from the GMs could work, like telling the people to respect the fact the other players want to farm Ash Wood Logs too.

 

[Brayohan]

Entiendo a qué te refieres, el problema es que en los mejores spot de NSS (thickskin lizards y smugglers) también hay mucha gente y solucionar eso si sería mas difícil y con respecto a los Pure Water es una buena forma de hacer dinero, pero si vas comenzando y ya yo he progresado un poco además de que conocía le juego ya, pero poner un mayor número de defoliate trees no afectara casi en nada.

Buenos días, los NSS fue una opción entre tantas, pero lo de subir la cantidad de árboles como lo dice arriba su precio en el mercado disminuiría porque ya es más fácil conseguirlo, entonces por tanto también afectaría a la manufactura de lv1 que lo necesita tanto y por eso digo que no porque es una cadena que afectaría a muchas cosas.