Unique gems from Item mall.

[xRazor]

Hi.

I wanted to bring up a very very very important subject.
So currently, there are just few ways to obtain Unique gems ingame. (CA, OSS etc) which is tottaly not going to be enough for the whole server. Especialy when guilds will appear, UGs will be kept inside guilds which might lead to some form of monopoly. This maybe is not the right time to introduce UG gems in mall, but i believe it should be done anytime soon. Unique gems in mall would stimulate the economy in the server. Since they are limited to level 3, it would be something that mallers might be interested to sell to no-mallers. It might make PK much, much more balanced in the long run. It would be very hard to keep monopoly over anything, since some people would be able to catch up by malling. For example, ever since ToP launched, it had UG gems inside item mall and they were not limited to 3. UG gems in here are limited to 3, so basicly, if the price is right in the mall, it shouldn't harm a thing.

And thats why i'd like to suggest that UG gems should be placed inside item mall.

Anyways, i'd like to hear the pros and cons from the whole community.

 

[Dipsy]

Maybe if the Unique Gems are sold with quotas? Like there will only be 30 pieces of Unique Gems available in the item mall?

 

[ayhan123]

the max lvl 3 gem limit is eventually gonna be lifted and mallers are just gonna have too fckng big of a advantage. I am against it.

A maller can already easily catch up by selling rums and buying plvl etc. And if there is like 20 ug in server i think at least 5 of it came from nss so good luck monopolizing nss.

what are you gonna do when bds start. Make another topic about bd gems and that they should be in mall because guilds are gonna keep it for themselves?

 

[SoruSorma]

Keep in mind without mallers server will die. Imagine this scenario a new player want to play after 1 year he should farm these ugs?? and what if 1 guild was wining ca. How can u make competition??? the only way is to make mall appealing for these new players so they can catch up and make some pk.

 

[Princeps]

rly rly bad idea

 

[ayhan123]

Keep in mind without mallers server will die. Imagine this scenario a new player want to play after 1 year he should farm these ugs?? and what if 1 guild was wining ca. How can u make competition??? the only way is to make mall appealing for these new players so they can catch up and make some pk.

that scenario only works for hard malling people. What about no-malling or soft-malling people? putting ugs in mall is by no means a right way to do it. And as i said mallers can always sell rums and buy items/gems/etc from old players. And it isnt like people will have lvl 7 ugs and shit in a year. Lets say they have lvl 5 ugs(that sounds really not possible unless you are A VERY VERY HARDCORE PLAYER) even if the new player reaches lvl 2-3 gems he will be relevant.

 

[xRazor]

The question is, would old player sell their UG gems if its that easy to keep monopoly over CA? Also, level 5 ug is very very possible. I myself have seen level 2 UG gem forged here, in PKO which means, getting UGs is not really that hardcore here. But the fact that you can't mall them wont help to balance out PK. And no malling/soft mallling people will have much higher chances to buy ugs from mallers if the UGs would be in mall, then buying them from people who are stacking them up.

 

[ayhan123]

if you add ugs server will turn into a pure maller server and even if it is possible to work hard and become strong most of the players who want to try out this game but doesnt mall wont even try seeing as it is a maller server. Most of the people i met around the private servers simply didnt play offi because it was ruled by mallers.

And i would personally sell ugs once in a while just to get cash because i wont have any other way of income. I am sure other people will do that too. Sure they will keep most of the ugs for themselves but as i said so what if they get a lvl 5 ug in a year. There arent many other gems in the server so once a new player gets lvl 2-3 ug they will be relevant cause thats like 20-40 stat difference. It is big but it is not something that will make you unkillable or anything.

 

[xRazor]

There's no such thing as balanced pk/guilds without Mall. Mall has to be very important here, else it's going to turn into foxlvonv2. Just saying.

 

[ayhan123]

There's no such thing as balanced pk/guilds without Mall. Mall has to be very important here, else it's going to turn into foxlvonv2. Just saying.

What makes you think that wining guild just wont mall more? honestly i can go mall 5k$ if i wanted to and i am already one of the(if not the strongest) in the server already and i am pretty sure i will countinue to be so.
I am not telling you that mall shouldnt provide some chance to catch up but putting gems in mall is just wrong.
there is no such thing as balanced pk between mallers and non mallers with mall that has ugs. I am not against mall having ug neck/ring vouchers and stuff because those things will give mallers a advantage but they will also be stuff that can be sold amongst normal players since vouchers wont give you what u want exactly. Mall has to have stuff like that.

 

[Geddon]

If you were to add UG to mall it should be voucher that gives random UG:.

 

[aquaricky]

Putting gems in the mall is exactly the same reason why most private servers fail. Pll mall a ton, get OP 2 fast then get bored when they get tired of 1 shotting non mallers. If u watched any videos on how the popular MMO games survive is because they DO NOT make the game pay to win because mallers already have an advantage from how easy it is to make money by buying mall points. BTW servers dont survive on mallers it survives on the non - mallers that give mallers decent competition.

 

[xRazor]

It's rarely mallers vs nonmallers... They are all usualy mixed together. And that's so much of a bullshit. PK servers can do well without mallers. These kind of servers where catching up later on will become impossible fails if theres no possibility to catch up by malling. Also, the gems are limited to 3, dont forget that. So even if you malled 5k, you would not need that many UG gems and that actualy gives chance to non-mallers to get the UGs from mallers. And that stimulates the economy.

 

[ayhan123]

It's rarely mallers vs nonmallers... They are all usualy mixed together. And that's so much of a bullshit. PK servers can do well without mallers. These kind of servers where catching up later on will become impossible fails if theres no possibility to catch up by malling. Also, the gems are limited to 3, dont forget that. So even if you malled 5k, you would not need that many UG gems and that actualy gives chance to non-mallers to get the UGs from mallers. And that stimulates the economy.

it wont be limited to lvl 3 in some months. And even iif maller/non mallers are mixed together it doesnt feel nice to pk people with lvl 5 ugems just coz they malled while u are on lvl 1-2.

 

[xRazor]

it wont be limited to lvl 3 in some months. And even iif maller/non mallers are mixed together it doesnt feel nice to pk people with lvl 5 ugems just coz they malled while u are on lvl 1-2.

Aint nice to pk against a group of people with level 5 ugs, while the rest are way beyond them without ability to catch up.

 

[ayhan123]

ok you are clearly dont get it. you only think about mallers mallers mallers mallers mallers. IF YOU PUT UGS IN MALL AND A PERSON THAT DOESNT MALL TRIES TO JOIN THE SERVER AFTER A YEAR IT WILL BE 100X TIMES HARDER FOR HIM TO CATCH UP.

 

[Karton]

there are always nice mallers that keep economy running and sell stuff for ingame gold ya know

 

[xRazor]

ok you are clearly dont get it. you only think about mallers mallers mallers mallers mallers. IF YOU PUT UGS IN MALL AND A PERSON THAT DOESNT MALL TRIES TO JOIN THE SERVER AFTER A YEAR IT WILL BE 100X TIMES HARDER FOR HIM TO CATCH UP.

Bullshit. It will be 100x times easier, coz he will actualy be able to buy things like gems and shit coz someones gona sell them. Without them in mall, UGs will be kept inside guilds coz they are so freaking rare which will actualy prevent newcomers from staying. I'm not thinking about the mallers only. I'm thinking of ways how to balance out the PK in the long run, coz obvi, most people dont give a shit about that here.

 

[ayhan123]

even if he is to add ugs to mall he has to add a ug voucher that gives random ugs. Also their price has to be really high and he has to put them in mall like 6 months-1 year later at the very least or else it will just quicken the progress of the server without any reason and make many normal players quit

 

[Princeps]

Bullshit. It will be 100x times easier, coz he will actualy be able to buy things like gems and shit coz someones gona sell them. Without them in mall, UGs will be kept inside guilds coz they are so freaking rare which will actualy prevent newcomers from staying. I'm not thinking about the mallers only. I'm thinking of ways how to balance out the PK in the long run, coz obvi, most people dont give a shit about that here.

Dude every1 should be able to barely survive alone,not be forced to mall*thats when it gets pay to win nd i see you all days talking about pk and stuff .What i saw is that u dont have idea about vanilla's.Zankza will be adding rep system nd award center dont bring topic for mall just because u want to waste ur fortune to make some pixels fancy