Sea Weed Killers

[Leba]

Seems like some people only think the way to be best on game is to spend money...well after so much complaining we can all see that if you cant beat them the solution is to get GM to add items to even boost the mallers further ahead of the game as it is already...

Yes, because sea weed killers are an untradeable item which will by no means be available for a regular, non-maller player. I suggest you re-read my first post, I didn't say adding them to mall was the only way of bringing them to the game. I actually think making them a manufacturing item seems more appropriate considering its use, because it would be available to everyone (even though every item mall item is sold on the market currently, but oh well), and it wouldn't lead to oversupply.

But anyway, first of all, you're saying that I want "to boost mallers" with this. I didn't say add equips or gems or leveling fruits in the mall, this is a miscelaneous item.

Secondly, I don't think you've ever used the item vs a few seavoys. It doesn't make you immune to algae nor that damage you take from curtain or ship attacks while you're algae'd by not one, but multiple ships. This item HELPS against SVs, it doesn't make you ignore them or their damage completely.

Thirdly, could you people for God's sake quit crying about how "adding something to mall would only benefit mallers". The item mall items here are sold REGULARLY in the market. Is it easier to get those items as a maller? Certainly. But isn't that how it's supposed to be?

 

[HostileNub]

Sea battle is a key to ds , fc map, which is why you need to travel via sea, a good way is to evade is using mirage gen, atomizer and accelerator or just use one ship as decoy to enter and the rest can run towards land or the best way is to create your own svs. As i remember i doubt there was sea weed killer in top1.
Another important thing is , sea battle does not directly depend on mall, even in top2 we had sea battles and every player gets to pk on a even field unlike land pk.
Instead of adding sea weed killer in the mall , it can be added as Manufacturing blueprint with low opening rate. But there were no sea weed killer in top1, we always used svs to fight.

 

[Landael Willins]

Sea battle is a key to ds , fc map, which is why you need to travel via sea, a good way is to evade is using mirage gen, atomizer and accelerator or just use one ship as decoy to enter and the rest can run towards land or the best way is to create your own svs. As i remember i doubt there was sea weed killer in top1.
Another important thing is , sea battle does not directly depend on mall, even in top2 we had sea battles and every player gets to pk on a even field unlike land pk.
Instead of adding sea weed killer in the mall , it can be added as Manufacturing blueprint with low opening rate. But there were no sea weed killer in top1, we always used svs to fight.

It is true there was no sea weed killer. All that happen is that they want GM make it easier again for them to just bypass one part of the PK map by eliminating the algae which is a integral part of any sea voy. But the GM making his money if I was him I would add that shit, let it screw what little PK is left on the server till all the non-mallers (majority of server) finally leave the server to the minority (mallers) and make my money then shutdown and go again.

 

[xRazor]

What about mirage gens? o.o You can escape from seavoys using those.

 

[Leba]

to just bypass one part of the PK map

Apparently you've never taken part in a Sea PK Against multiple sea Voys focusing you. Weed killers will help out, but they're not a surefire way for you to escape them.

What about mirage gens? o.o You can escape from seavoys using those.

They last for a few seconds. Against multiple sea voys using sea manu? They won't be of any relevance.

 

[Radagast]

Apparently you've never taken part in a Sea PK Against multiple sea Voys focusing you. Weed killers will help out, but they're not a surefire way for you to escape them.

They last for a few seconds. Against multiple sea voys using sea manu? They won't be of any relevance.

Seriously, when reading your posts all I hear is : Zankza, they work together and are stronger than me in this map - pls nerf.
Cmon dude, get your own team, make your own seavoys and pwn their asses. If you don't want to, feel to lazy to do that, then you shouldn't win DS bosses anyway. They work harder, they win. What's so hard to understand...?

 

[MadRage]

How about if lightning curtain(disable damage to ships, because we need it to fight monsters at sea) and only algae would? would that seem fair? so you can still normal attack and the one with the higher level boat would be tankier.

 

[Radagast]

How about if lightning curtain(disable damage to ships, because we need it to fight monsters at sea) and only algae would? would that seem fair? so you can still normal attack and the one with the higher level boat would be tankier.

What? Discard only damaging skill in sea for only sea class? No way.

 

[anthonibrian]

This is really funny.
Fcer and Dser always always need to be support for a SEA VOY. Remenber guys FC AND DS are the only mazes where Sea voys are useful and pk in sea is fun, ¿Why? This pk is bassed in your pk skills because you cant put gems or gear in ships btw you need make many sea voys and if you dont want pk only enter with many alts with ship (you can skip alga with it) this is old my way in old days. Aggre you would use combo mirage and ship acce or ship atom still in lv 1 are great.

 

[MadRage]

What? Discard only damaging skill in sea for only sea class? No way.

yes but only discard the damge to ships so they cant run after algae. if they want to damge more they have to attack and not jsut run and drop the lightning current.

or when u cast lightning current you cant move? so that sea battles would somehow be realistic than using algae and dropping lightning current then run to not get damged.

but that is much hassle and i know it wont be implemented but atleast i tried thinking to balance out sea battle.

just my opinion iam not even sure if its DOable

 

[Deleted 66]

what about mirrage gens, then use ship atomizer? ever though about that?

 

[Radagast]

yes but only discard the damge to ships so they cant run after algae. if they want to damge more they have to attack and not jsut run and drop the lightning current.

or when u cast lightning current you cant move? so that sea battles would somehow be realistic than using algae and dropping lightning current then run to not get damged.

but that is much hassle and i know it wont be implemented but atleast i tried thinking to balance out sea battle.

just my opinion iam not even sure if its DOable

That would not balance sea battle, that would only nerf only sea class we have. Only way to somehow balance sea battles would be adding some different sea skills to other classes, but that would be hard to do with limited stat points one has at lv45 or 55.

Anyway, just fight how it's supposed to be and how it has always been on ToP1. If enemy team has seavoys, recruit or make your own and pwn them. Otherwise don't cry that something is unfair etc.. Everyone has same chances, they are just wanting to win more than you do atm it seems.

 

[Leba]

That would not balance sea battle, that would only nerf only sea class we have. Only way to somehow balance sea battles would be adding some different sea skills to other classes, but that would be hard to do with limited stat points one has at lv45 or 55.

Anyway, just fight how it's supposed to be and how it has always been on ToP1. If enemy team has seavoys, recruit or make your own and pwn them. Otherwise don't cry that something is unfair etc.. Everyone has same chances, they are just wanting to win more than you do atm it seems.

It's not about crying that it's unfair, it's about how this kind of PK is absolutely lame and retarded. It's literally "Who has more seavoys turns Land DS into a PvE zone, and the other person can't go in for 40 mins". I honestly had big hopes for DS PK here, considering it's a maze which is useful, even just a tad bit here, and people will try to contest it. I'm quite disappointed that the only PK I got to see was Sea PK from someone who only wants to do the bosses and then leave.

That's a very cowardly and incompetitive way to safely mooch cash out of DS. I did not expect to be met with this, and I think I'm done with DS and this game altogether, off-topic, but the community became a selfish, incompetitive shade of what it once was. The people only care about progressing as quickly and safely as possible. THAT'S what I'm crying about here.

 

[dinga2020]

It's not about crying that it's unfair, it's about how this kind of PK is absolutely lame and retarded. It's literally "Who has more seavoys turns Land DS into a PvE zone, and the other person can't go in for 40 mins". I honestly had big hopes for DS PK here, considering it's a maze which is useful, even just a tad bit here, and people will try to contest it. I'm quite disappointed that the only PK I got to see was Sea PK from someone who only wants to do the bosses and then leave.

That's a very cowardly and incompetitive way to safely mooch cash out of DS. I did not expect to be met with this, and I think I'm done with DS and this game altogether, off-topic, but the community became a selfish, incompetitive shade of what it once was. The people only care about progressing as quickly and safely as possible. THAT'S what I'm crying about here.

Just because you dont like sea pk, it does not make it lame or retarded. You are trying very hard to enforce your opinion on others, you really do not understand the game mechanics. This is not like other private servers, this is how pk worked in top1, it is more about strategy and planning rather than raw power. No one is stopping you from making a guild and fighting, if you cannot win, you should accept defeat and not complain forum because it did not go your way. It has been only been 20 days since launch and you expect a competitive pk, at this crucial time, smart people will first gather resources and make the guild strong before pking.

Calling people cowardly because you cant deal with them shows you are the one who is cowardly. This is how life works, if things do not go your way, you do not complain but deal with it......

Anyways all the best to you.

 

[R4GEBower]

I don't know how manufacturing or crafting mecanics works(programming back-end), but implement sea weed killer as blueprint is an option. Just a suggestion..

 

[Lillan]

Putting seaweed killer for imps sounds retarded. Not even igg was so greedy, at least they were bought by credits.

But I don't like the idea to even add them, cuz then again it will make seavoys useless.

 

[PanMilan]

Leba always been a loser who cried because he has no skill. Just ignore him and enjoy the sea pk because once people get bored and better geared, guilds will stop sea pk (make an aggreement or w/e) and enjoy more land pk. It always happens so just enjoy the sea pk while it lasts

 

[MadRage]

Leba always been a loser who cried because he has no skill. Just ignore him and enjoy the sea pk because once people get bored and better geared, guilds will stop sea pk (make an aggreement or w/e) and enjoy more land pk. It always happens so just enjoy the sea pk while it lasts

dont bash leba too much . he already is inactive. HAHAHAHA

 

[Radagast]

It's not about crying that it's unfair, it's about how this kind of PK is absolutely lame and retarded. It's literally "Who has more seavoys turns Land DS into a PvE zone, and the other person can't go in for 40 mins". I honestly had big hopes for DS PK here, considering it's a maze which is useful, even just a tad bit here, and people will try to contest it. I'm quite disappointed that the only PK I got to see was Sea PK from someone who only wants to do the bosses and then leave.

That's a very cowardly and incompetitive way to safely mooch cash out of DS. I did not expect to be met with this, and I think I'm done with DS and this game altogether, off-topic, but the community became a selfish, incompetitive shade of what it once was. The people only care about progressing as quickly and safely as possible. THAT'S what I'm crying about here.

Why do you call sea PK lame and retarded? Because you don't like it or you are too lazy to make your own seavoys? It's same like saying that PKing with voys in CA is lame and retarded, if many voys team up and conch you... You make no sense.