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Forging and Removing Gems question

Luigi Bello

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Hi guys, i have a question.
I want to forge now Shadow and Lustrious in my sword, then in a second moment (when i have money xD), i will change Shadow with Rage gem.

So if i want to extract the correct gem with Plier (Shadow), what i have to forge first Lustrious or Shadow?
 
Pliers always extract the gem on the first socket. So you first forge Shadow, then lust.
 
Can i ask you @Zankza ? Because some players say plier extracts 1socket, some players say plier extracts 2nd socket
 
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