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[underdawg]

so I'm on pko today and see many peeps wanting to buy RG for 700k,i truly believe you guys did this backwards, you added gems, which made the price of the few rgs for sale go way up,,400k was a lot to save for a single forge and now its even harder to forge. What the game truly needs is many many more rg at a cheap price, >>> the few rg that will drop will be sold to just the few top guilds here, little will be left for guild less people and newbies. you can add all the gems you want but without a hugh supply of rgs the game will sit still,only the big will get bigger.,i can only suggest to increase the drop rates much much more,or even add a drop rate to normal mobs or ramdom sea mobs to fix this,,,of course you wont,but maybe in time you will see I'm right,or ....ill see I'm wrong,but I don't see how this helps at all,as it stands.i can already guess the replys,its new it will even out ,1 million dollar rgs wont make people forge more ,but less,so yeah I'm confused as to how this is going to help anyone but the biggest players?

 

[Zankza]

Helps by allowing people who recently joined to purchase gems off item mall, without having the gems being monopolized by high level characters/guilds.

 

[underdawg]

without rgs in the mall?hows that help?add rgs and fine the issue is no more..those whole control the rg ,control the game

 

[Zankza]

Refining gems are not monopolized by any means, they are very very diverse of source, no guild can monopoly entire maps, they may at most block off the port, but mazes remain one way to obtain refining gems still. There is many other ways including plenty of non-mazes monsters drops, quests, jackpots, mini-bosses, and so on.

 

[underdawg]

that's all well and good, but I still say,increase the drop rates, or there just wont be enough to go around, another idea would be to make it so just UG need RG, all other gems are rg free to forge,,.or make it 1 rg per lv,lvl 2 takes 2rg not 4...that would also help..I don't see why putting them in the mall is a big issue, it makes you guys more cash and will give everyone access to them,if the answer is it would make it even more of a pay to win game ,well it already is mostly, this is off topic some but>>>,foxlv was the best free to play platform for pko ive seen,i got into it,i got stuff,good stuff... and I was going to buy rums just because I was having a great time there,all you had to do was change the exp rate for that server and keep the rest and the server would still live,the isp point system was a great idea, for non cashers, it just needed to be tweaked some so peeps cant abuse it,i apologize zank if it feels like I'm attacking you lately,because its not meant to read that way,you guys do a super great job,and have pko in the heart,and for that I thank you.

 

[gimulet]

make it 1 rg per lv,lvl 2 takes 2rg not 4. <------- A good idea

yes im not a hardcore player but if somehow this kind of notion is implemented i think many will stay for long
question is tho what about the existing players who have forged stuff the manual way?
when they see this kind it will be a civil war for sure

 

[underdawg]

make it 1 rg per lv,lvl 2 takes 2rg not 4. <------- A good idea

yes im not a hardcore player but if somehow this kind of notion is implemented i think many will stay for long
question is tho what about the existing players who have forged stuff the manual way?
when they see this kind it will be a civil war for sure

well true ,but on the first pko they did something like this ,they removed the gems in peoples stuff and inventory,,but this was done because of illegal gems,here they would just have to give back those extra rg,but their forge would remain the same,and all other gems would stay and now we we also have all those extra rg in the game,

 

[gimulet]

Part of the struggle in this game is not getting the refs it is those unique gems which are stupidly expensive. some ppl as you know tryhard farm for it or buy rums or combine both. Now im not shooting your idea down but take this case for example if you remove gems in ppl and give them only the refs as you say the first pko did?

Can the game owner give those ppl their time back? Or even money or even some sort of complementary stuff that does not provide huge advantage?

Imho forget about putting refs or even unique gems at mall the instance it is being put it will be a riot..if i may suggest try coming up with some idea that will at least alleviate the economy issue in this game

 

[underdawg]

well I meant give them back the extra rgs only,if they was to change to 1rg per lv forge,the gems stay,,but I see your points, so give em back 2 extra rgs for their time..... explain how having rg in the mall would hurt the game ? ?ok so it pisses off some people who had to work for them, but that's life lol..things change.you change with it or get left behind. as far as ideas on the economy ,not sure if you played foxlv or not but that system worked well.,as I said before the game needs more,life skills,more ways to make fast steady coins,cook and manu are overused because of this and that drives those prices way down.maybe increase the coin rewards on quests?the job npc in fox did wonders for getting fast coins to people in a easy but boring way, oddly some people would rather cut wood for hrs a day to sell to job npc at like 60k a stack ,then to do any of the life skills,but people could afford to forge there in a short time,

 

[underdawg]

Refining gems are not monopolized by any means, they are very very diverse of source, no guild can monopoly entire maps, they may at most block off the port, but mazes remain one way to obtain refining gems still. There is many other ways including plenty of non-mazes monsters drops, quests, jackpots, mini-bosses, and so on.

ok then ,ill try to get a rg on my own,and see how long it takes me lol,my voy is just 47,my cruss under 45,,low power players have little option but to buy them zank

 

[gimulet]

You know ppl go thru the whole effort of making 70+ chars to do Sq?

And many tons of stuff they do to get that refs?

Like i said it is the UG that is the main concern not the refs..putting it in mall will just defeat the purpose of mazes and hardwork
From there on i will ask you to figure out on yourself how exactly this will destroy the game

 

[underdawg]

You know ppl go thru the whole effort of making 70+ chars to do Sq?

And many tons of stuff they do to get that refs?

Like i said it is the UG that is the main concern not the refs..putting it in mall will just defeat the purpose of mazes and hardwork
From there on i will ask you to figure out on yourself how exactly this will destroy the game

I guess we will see, the game moves ahead or backwards,,,we gain or lose people it seldom stays the same,,lol all I'm saying is increase the drop rate so we have a better supply,and the price drops,,,for me that works ,not everyone on pko does mazes,i don't do any until I can do dw solo, and then i get my own rg,,so until then I have to buy them as do many others,increasing the drop rate and having more rg will only do one thing, lower the price,the pros can still hunt them and sell,,having more at a lower price doesn't change anything as far as profit ,,,,you act like everyone plays the game to be the best,,some are happy with low forge ,UG are stupid high in price as you said ,and that's ok,its the best,,,but to even forge low gems we need rg that is way over priced,>>>> zankza says guilds don't monopolize a severs rg ,I disagree, the rg are first always offered to the guild members, then what's left is sold outside the guild, and there's very little left. Past that point...>>

 

[Zankza]

They cannot monopolize because there is scattered ways to receive it, story quests, salvaging, jackpot, NONE of them are controlled by a guild entity in any capacity possible.

 

[malanday24]

No one is monopolizing the mazes, try to workhard if you can go mazes. Join in one FC guild and there you can farm refs. The game is not all about gemming up, its about how happy you are.

 

[underdawg]

They cannot monopolize because there is scattered ways to receive it, story quests, salvaging, jackpot, NONE of them are controlled by a guild entity in any capacity possible.

lol really, and just how many rg come from salvage and quests, the fact is most come from mazes, and tell me zank if the big guilds decide to kill everyone not in there guild what happens then?yes they hunt rg the whole time and the rest die,

 

[underdawg]

No one is monopolizing the mazes, try to workhard if you can go mazes. Join in one FC guild and there you can farm refs. The game is not all about gemming up, its about how happy you are.

as you say join a fc guild,?well what if people don't like guilds?tell me how will they do in fc then?

 

[malanday24]

If you dont want to join guild then farm yourself there, the question is if u can survive lol. Hahaha
let me teach u noob. Im so angry with people like you that they find themselves not favorable in some situation like this. If u dont want to go FC to farm RG, then farm yourself or sell rums(if u have money) then buy RG. Thats it! Very Simple. Many players farm then farm then farm to buy what they want. Any game is like in real world if u want something to buy then work then buy what you want using the money you work for.

 

[Leba]

lol really, and just how many rg come from salvage and quests,

A lot, more than from mazes.

 

[xRazor]

Latest updates are great. FC is finaly coming alive. 900k for a ref is still a joke. A good one tho. Server is starting to look like the PKO that i used to know. And really, the fact the the price doubled in such short period is not the suppliers fault. If there's a demand for refs for 900k ea then obvi the price will go up.

 

[underdawg]

If you dont want to join guild then farm yourself there, the question is if u can survive lol. Hahaha
let me teach u noob. Im so angry with people like you that they find themselves not favorable in some situation like this. If u dont want to go FC to farm RG, then farm yourself or sell rums(if u have money) then buy RG. Thats it! Very Simple. Many players farm then farm then farm to buy what they want. Any game is like in real world if u want something to buy then work then buy what you want using the money you work for.

lol funny guy ive have more then one 85+ cruss,s and ss unlikely you can teach me anything,but lol this post isn't about me ,its about everyone,