BOT4LYF

[MZarur]

There is not very much preventive measures currently, We can deploy a lot of tactics and counter-measures but right now we'll just see how it goes first, No need to waste time or energy into something that's unknown.

all the 6 pages of comments in one post.

 

[Arcadios]

free??? you will need at least a lv 40 SS to start doing it. and 1-5m??? I see a huge discrepancy with ur numbers. setting a SS all the night farming will make u get something like 300-500k. if you think someone can lv up 5 more SS to lv 40 only for farming it in a 1x server, I'm sorry, but I have to say that u never played in a 1x server so your opinion isn't important.

burn hahaha he think that lvling here would be like in private server lmaoo

 

[Arcadios]

1-2mins is fairly good so i guess we can prevent botting with that

 

[Shinon12345]

Well we at least gotta try something. If that does not proof to be very effective, we'll try the next thing easy as that.
I'm sure we'll get this botting "problem" under control if everybody contributes and reports people who they see botting.

 

[Leba]

I'm sure we'll get this botting "problem" under control if everybody contributes and reports people who they see botting.

That's unnecessary if proper measures are taken and people don't get the opportunity to bot at all.

 

[Hillarien]

I think we already delivered all kind of the opinions already to Zankza, he should have enough information to act accordingly. The only thing i want to note, is that if bot character will be banned, all of the characters of the player should be banned as well. Otherwise it hardly have any meaning at all.

 

[Leba]

I think we already delivered all kind of the opinions already to Zankza, he should have enough information to act accordingly. The only thing i want to note, is that if bot character will be banned, all of the characters of the player should be banned as well. Otherwise it hardly have any meaning at all.

Actually, I think that banning the character or account is enough. It does take a while to create new facebook and game account and level a character up to 40.

 

[Leba]

So far, I gotta give props to Zankza (and the rest of the team members, if there are any) for managing the server and forums quite well.
I like the fact that Zankza's taking it quite slowly, answering everyone's questions, and he's not rushing into changing stuff which depends on a lot of factors, he'd rather wait and see how certain things work out.
Now, there's subjects such as the Item Mall, Award Center, Reputation, Demonic fruits and some others which I agree will have to wait until the server stabilizes a little bit, and based on multiple factors, such as economy, item mall economy, supply & demand of certain items and etc. changes can be made accordingly.

But I don't like the fact that he has the very same attitude on some other subjects, namely botting and UGs. Starting off with botting, it's definitely going to be a problem, considering how many people dive head-in, investing highly into making those alt characters within their first several hours of playtime, how many will follow, and how many people will actually bot in total; I fear that the problem may be discovered a bit too late, and the server could have already been damaged due to certain individuals gaining a massive advantage.

I would also like to add that although I agree with Zankza's OVERALL approach, waiting for the problem to arise, have a back-up plan when he realizes that there might be a problem, and acting accordingly from there on; I don't think this is the approach that should be taken when it comes to a subject such as botting. Although I've said this countless times on this thread already, botting is a very big and server-damaging problem, and the community has already given countless good suggestions as to how it can be fixed WITHOUT ruining the nature of auto-cast (Disabling auto-cast after a set amount of time, and banning players who use third party programs.)

I, and I'm sure many other players share this opinion, would love to see this problem fixed before the game gets launched, to prevent any unnecessary trouble.

@Zankza

 

[kenchin]

@Zankza make a rule like in top1 1st offence you will be put in dark house and wait for GM and stay in dark house for like 1-3 days 2nd offence will be 7 days stay there and 3rd offence will be perma ban..i remember this kind of rules that TOP1 made when Botting start to grow up + the captcha.... jsut saying xd

 

[Cozmo]

Ban first time, no warnings. There should be no need to "warn" or "scold" someone botting, only ruins the server if they are allowed to come back and do it again, and no one here is 5...

 

[AppleTree]

@Zankza make a rule like in top1 1st offence you will be put in dark house and wait for GM and stay in dark house for like 1-3 days 2nd offence will be 7 days stay there and 3rd offence will be perma ban..i remember this kind of rules that TOP1 made when Botting start to grow up + the captcha.... jsut saying xd

I agree with the idea, but adding another thing that you lose all the stuff that you grinded with your botting So that way its not gonna be easy to just keep all ur stuff, oh same goes if you transfer it aswell.

 

[Leba]

As long as auto-cast is fairly limited, I don't think too many people will bother with botting, it's a big investment and considering you can get banned for using third party programs, very few people would be bold enough to take the risk and lose all the time and effort they've put into making those bot chars, setting them up and etc.

 

[Radagast]

As long as auto-cast is fairly limited, I don't think too many people will bother with botting, it's a big investment and considering you can get banned for using third party programs, very few people would be bold enough to take the risk and lose all the time and effort they've put into making those bot chars, setting them up and etc.

Problem there is, Zankza has never said there will be perma ban for using 3rd party programs.

 

[Leba]

Problem there is, Zankza has never said there will be perma ban for using 3rd party programs.

A permaban could be the "third strike" if the bans were to be given with a three-strike policy. I'm pretty much against warnings though which were suggested here. IF someone does bot, they should be banned, if the same thing were to be repeated multiple times, a permaban would follow. Would be nice if the record was kept for each IP rather than each character, but as long as the "botting" was solved, I don't think that actual botting will be a big problem.

 

[Deleted 66]

Correct me if I'm wrong. But i don't see any GAME rules. And when it comes to botting. Only the account gets banned. So people can get away with botting by creating useless alts to bot.

 

[Leba]

by creating useless alts to bot.

Remember that this is a vanilla 1x server, meaning that leveling a character to lv40, promoting them, giving them the necessary items and etc. is a big investment, ESPECIALLY early. True, it does pay off eventually, but if you happen to get banned too early, it's a few hours wasted which you could've been using in a much better way.

 

[Camstar14]

Reporting bot at NSS now. autohowl champ and SS

 

[Radityo Didot]

Reporting bot at NSS now. autohowl champ and SS

You shall call @Zankza , and tell exact location.

 

[Radityo Didot]

Is auto-skill magma allowed?
Saw 3 on Smugglers.

 

[PanMilan]

Logged in after a while and noticed a lot of botters lool guess my warnings weren't good enough and @Zankza wanted people to bot through this game.

Since yaknow not even minimal action isn't even being taken against them like deleting all accounts related to IP.