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Loneman

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Never noticed anyone trying to do these bosses. Can be easily done alone with proper equipment and time, while can also be defeated by less equipped parties.

In my opinion they could have better drops. I could see guildless parties or smaller guilds trying to kill them while the stronger ones are in the pk mazes.
 
The only thing I could see happening would be a stronger guild ksing a smaller guild 90% of the time, unless they get spawn time exactly the same time as DS or DW and only be alive for 40 minutes, then it would make people have to choose between maze or island bosses, but if not like that then people would find a way to make their spawns fall under a good time to keep it all under their thumb.
 
The only thing I could see happening would be a stronger guild ksing a smaller guild 90% of the time, unless they get spawn time exactly the same time as DS or DW and only be alive for 40 minutes, then it would make people have to choose between maze or island bosses, but if not like that then people would find a way to make their spawns fall under a good time to keep it all under their thumb.

I am not sure about this. Even the minibosses from Andes and Valhalla have chances to drop UG, and I dont see members from the R guild and the S guild camping or ksing them.
 
I am not sure about this. Even the minibosses from Andes and Valhalla have chances to drop UG, and I dont see members from the R guild and the S guild camping or ksing them.
If you increased drops from those mini bosses that'd happen, but higher lvs don't usually bother with mini bosses because chance of UG dropping is too low and the other drops barely give you money most of the times. If you make the drops something really good, then people will be interested, and when many people want those drops, they will compete, and when there is competition, the strongest or most organized will win. It's quite logical. You should never assume people on the top will let you get good money from a boss if they also can, even if they don't need it, some do it just for the pleasure of pissing others off.
 
My opinion here is it will kill pk even more in the server . people will rather just do minibosses then dw. I see most here would rather do pve than pvp ( which sucks for me coz pvp always fun :( . Server is boring without it. So this is a shout out to everyone too to step up their game and come out there and fight! Be a spartan!!!!!! Just do it!!! Nothing is impossible if you believe in urself!!
 
My opinion here is it will kill pk even more in the server . people will rather just do minibosses then dw. I see most here would rather do pve than pvp ( which sucks for me coz pvp always fun :( . Server is boring without it. So this is a shout out to everyone too to step up their game and come out there and fight! Be a spartan!!!!!! Just do it!!! Nothing is impossible if you believe in urself!!
Well, it's easy to have such an attitude when you and your guild are light years ahead of the rest...
 
Well, it's easy to have such an attitude when you and your guild are light years ahead of the rest...
Well, it's easy to have such an attitude when you and your guild are light years ahead of the rest...
No kidding eh? How about you take my comment seriously and really try to do something rather than to misconstrued me who is trying to be nice and encourage players Leba. I help new players whenever i can myself. And im more than happy if i see them improving. Thank you for the opinion tho.
 
No kidding eh? How about you take my comment seriously and really try to do something rather than to misconstrued me who is trying to be nice and encourage players Leba. I help new players whenever i can myself. And im more than happy if i see them improving. Thank you for the opinion tho.
Good for you, it wasn't my intention to misconstrue you or what you said. All I'm saying is that it's quite easy to have such an attitude when things are going smoothly and well, "Fight!", "Go spartan!", "Believe in yourself!" and such. Quite frankly, it doesn't really work that way. You can have a "spartan" attitude and get mopped the floor with and humiliated in PK so many times until it just becomes obsolete.

Not that I have anything against you or your opinion Husky, it's quite the contrary. However I can't help but notice that most people making these kinds of comments are the "carefree" ones who've been owning all the high-level content and preventing anyone else from enjoying it for weeks now. Just saying that from such a perspective, it sure is easy encouraging others.
 
Good for you, it wasn't my intention to misconstrue you or what you said. All I'm saying is that it's quite easy to have such an attitude when things are going smoothly and well, "Fight!", "Go spartan!", "Believe in yourself!" and such. Quite frankly, it doesn't really work that way. You can have a "spartan" attitude and get mopped the floor with and humiliated in PK so many times until it just becomes obsolete.

Not that I have anything against you or your opinion Husky, it's quite the contrary. However I can't help but notice that most people making these kinds of comments are the "carefree" ones who've been owning all the high-level content and preventing anyone else from enjoying it for weeks now. Just saying that from such a perspective, it sure is easy encouraging others.
You are extraordinaire. It isnt our or my fault if I played longer than them. I had a lot of hardships too more than anybody else here in the server and they were quite stressful to be honest. It is bias to think that just because we played " light years ahead" of some of them, you think our attitude stinks now? Just remember the times when i was on a losing guild vs Scrubs, then vs the Old Abyssal, then vs the aka New abyssal, remember those times. Plus it is sad to think and I am quite frustrated that this community isnt doing that much to help revive the PK/ help the new players catch up. It is sad to see that people complain much more than actually doing a solution with the issue. 'Action speaks louder than words' Leba. If we actually stop whining and do something , i think we can make a progress from here. To be honest, i got offended when you said that because all i cared about is to help make the server alive again ( e.g. give stuff to new players whenever I can). You are wrong. I am very different that what you are thinking of. @Leba
 
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You are extraordinaire. It isnt our or my fault if I played longer than them. I had a lot of hardships too more than anybody else here in the server and they were quite stressful to be honest. It is bias to think that just because we played " light years ahead" of some of them, you think our attitude stinks now? Just remember the times when i was on a losing guild vs Scrubs, then vs the Old Abyssal, then vs the aka New abyssal, remember those times. Plus it is sad to think and I am quite frustrated that this community isnt doing that much to help revive the PK/ help the new players catch up. It is sad to see that people complain much more than actually doing a solution with the issue. 'Action speaks louder than words' Leba. If we actually stop whining and do something , i think we can make a progress from here. To be honest, i got offended when you said that because all i cared about is to help make the server alive again ( e.g. give stuff to new players whenever I can). You are wrong. I am very different that what you are thinking of. @Leba
Husky, you seem like a guy with good intentions, but the current situation does not have simple solutions like "be brave" "fight against the odds", that does not kill the enemies, neither does my slashes. As the leader of the only guild that -tries- (miserably) to opposite you guys on c.a and dw I can tell you that over half of them are always on the verge of quitting the fray, not due to simply being cowards, but because its simply not doable, nor fun. Dude you know it takes 6 people of our guild taking turns sealing just to have a chance to kill you (if you don't spam crystalline blessing waiting for reinforcements...), if you for once put yourself on the lower people's shoes you'd perhaps notice how unrealistic your view of the situation is.

This isn't a fight among equals or anything like that, it's putting 60kg dudes who are new to fighting to face 100kg dudes who have been doing it for years and years. The server will never have good pk if it's as unbalanced as this, if good pk is what you wish then try splitting your guild, then you'll see the magic happen. But picking on weaker people and telling them they are cowards for not facing a sure defeat just so you can have fun killing them is not gonna make them magically be stronger and a match to you. Ask any of your mates if you ever had a -chance- of really losing a battle with even numbers or even at just a slight disavantage, do you know how hard it is to keep people motivated when they have lost every single time the enemy faced with decent numbers and cannot rely on the power of credit cards or bank accounts? I tell you, you do not. You have the power to create a solution, but I'm quite certain you'll keep it where you are, it's more confortable afterall.
 
Husky, you seem like a guy with good intentions, but the current situation does not have simple solutions like "be brave" "fight against the odds", that does not kill the enemies, neither does my slashes. As the leader of the only guild that -tries- (miserably) to opposite you guys on c.a and dw I can tell you that over half of them are always on the verge of quitting the fray, not due to simply being cowards, but because its simply not doable, nor fun. Dude you know it takes 6 people of our guild taking turns sealing just to have a chance to kill you (if you don't spam crystalline blessing waiting for reinforcements...), if you for once put yourself on the lower people's shoes you'd perhaps notice how unrealistic your view of the situation is.

This isn't a fight among equals or anything like that, it's putting 60kg dudes who are new to fighting to face 100kg dudes who have been doing it for years and years. The server will never have good pk if it's as unbalanced as this, if good pk is what you wish then try splitting your guild, then you'll see the magic happen. But picking on weaker people and telling them they are cowards for not facing a sure defeat just so you can have fun killing them is not gonna make them magically be stronger and a match to you. Ask any of your mates if you ever had a -chance- of really losing a battle with even numbers or even at just a slight disavantage, do you know how hard it is to keep people motivated when they have lost every single time the enemy faced with decent numbers and cannot rely on the power of credit cards or bank accounts? I tell you, you do not. You have the power to create a solution, but I'm quite certain you'll keep it where you are, it's more confortable afterall.
Like i said if we complain less and do more action , we will get progress. End of my argument here. It is getting out of hand.
 
Wow, the thread quickly derailed in another edition of "Restricted vs the rest of the world"

Ok, let's see the actual opinions

If you increased drops from those mini bosses that'd happen, but higher lvs don't usually bother with mini bosses because chance of UG dropping is too low and the other drops barely give you money most of the times. If you make the drops something really good, then people will be interested, and when many people want those drops, they will compete, and when there is competition, the strongest or most organized will win. It's quite logical. You should never assume people on the top will let you get good money from a boss if they also can, even if they don't need it, some do it just for the pleasure of pissing others off.

Well, these bosses that I mentioned are currently untouched. Nobody is willing to kill a monster with 800k hp that its best drop is a Mystic Chest. Maybe there is a point where they can be toned to not become a "must-do" thing. Maybe OSS could be a drop as it has a considerable chance to drop a gem when compared to a NSS or a miniboss, but still smaller than a maze boss.

The idea of forcing people to choose between maze bosses or island bosses may be good too.

My opinion here is it will kill pk even more in the server . people will rather just do minibosses then dw. I see most here would rather do pve than pvp ( which sucks for me coz pvp always fun :( . Server is boring without it. So this is a shout out to everyone too to step up their game and come out there and fight! Be a spartan!!!!!! Just do it!!! Nothing is impossible if you believe in urself!!

I don't see how pk could be killed more. About DW, most of the players barely can deal with DW enviroment itself, imagine facing a crusader that can 1 slash or a champion that they will never manage to break. About PvP/MvM, I never did care much, so I'll probably have no base to argue about it.

"Nothing is impossible if you believe in urself!"
Wow, after this one I could see myself killing thatcrusadersfromsomeguildsthatcan1slashchampsandconvoys with some 1k conchs.
 
"Nothing is impossible if you believe in urself!"
Wow, after this one I could see myself killing thatcrusadersfromsomeguildsthatcan1slashchampsandconvoys with some 1k conchs.

Thats why theres thing called 'teamwork'.
 
"Nothing is impossible if you believe in urself!"
Wow, after this one I could see myself killing thatcrusadersfromsomeguildsthatcan1slashchampsandconvoys with some 1k conchs.

Thats why theres thing called 'teamwork'.
Huskybruns or any Restricted members just admit it guyz, when your guild is on full power no one can stand in its way, you all know that too well. Stop playing dumb like any guild stand a chance on your guild, maybe a guild will stand a chance in Restricted guild in 3+ months but by that time most of the players fighting against Restricted probably has quitted already. And "Teamwork"? seriously? you know that it takes at least 3+ people just to restrain a member of Restricted. I don't care about your past wherein you didnt complain about losing at the start of the server. That's just dumb to compare that and the current situation, since at that time, losing is actually not that painful/boring because there is 30+ people on CA so it's actually fun, + the server was young so everything is doable with bare equips and teamwork
so to compare at your time of losing:
- pet lvl's of players isn't that high yet, not much of forged UG's/BD gems,population and level of players

So Huskybruns? It's just plain dumb to compare your time of losing vs now.
You can't do shit here with what you so called "Teamwork" right now.
Long story short, PK is dead, there's no helping it unless some miracle happen in the server. Why have I said "PK is dead"? Ok even with 2-3 guilds clashing on CA/DW, it doesn't change the fact that there's less than 2-15 people(Note: this might be outdated since I haven't logged the server in weeks, but just correct me if I'm wrong hehehe) per CA/DW. So good luck.

@Huskybruns - "Ignorance is bliss" indeed.
 
There is no point to keep these bosses then, because they are useless... I like how the maller guys are always against something ingame obtainable... And Loneman didn't even ask for anything serious drop, but you are already complaining. lol Something more interesting, like nana, rations are enough with a not too high or low chance. And who cares if people will wait for the boss spawn? This is how every MMORPG works... this is how the mazes work in this game too. There are bosses in PK and non-PK zones which always killed by someone. At the moment no one is killing them, because the drop/exp bonus isn't worth the time, so again what's the point then? But yeah, just keep the game the same boring way and the wonder why don't you have more players.
 
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